Pacquiao Might Have Blueprint to Beat Mayweather

I had the De La Hoya fight 7-4-1 even.

He was injured with Castillo-would you like to see the commission report? Go ahead and request it from boxrec...they do have the official reports.

Fighting in a NEW weight class (135) with an INJURED SHOULDER is very difficult...Floyd still pulled out the W, even with an injured shoulder...Vitali, who is arguably a top 15 ATG HW, quit against Chris Byrd (small HW)...:good

 

No ****! I wouldn't call it a blueprint. But Pac would have a chance, a slim chance for a KO, or at least make it an interesting fight.

 

Wrong. Mayweather was hit more by Castillo and Oscar then any southpaw. And Mosley hurt him the most.

Mayweather lost 4 rounds vs Oscar. 5 and 4 in the 1st and 2nd Castillo fight respectively. 2 rounds vs Hatton ect.

In comparison Zab Judah, Mitchell, Ortiz, and Corley at best won 4 maybe 5 at best between them all.

The best punch cs Floyd is feint downstairs right up top. Castillo, Oscar and Mosley all landed it.

 

Negative-Mosley landed a harder shot than Corley or Judah..The shot that Mosley landed was the hardest punch he has ever been hit with...Shaen is a right handed fighter.

Your argument in this is not valid-Ican come back and say "well Floyd does not have problems with smaller fighters and Pacquiao is a smaller fighter."

 

I was talking about harder punches landed, not rounds won. Southpaws have hit Floyd harder and cleaner than infighters.

That was one right hand, and Shane isn't an infighter. I was comparing southpaws against infighters. My argument is valid because all it says is that failing to establish lead foot position against a hard hitting southpaw is a liability, which is a fundamental of boxing.

 

they have not hit Floyd the "hardest" as you suggested earlier...Shane Mosley is an orthodox fighter and he hit Floyd harder than anyone in his career.

 

Good points.

But you are all forgetting something:

Floyd will SURELY rough up Pac, first tying him up and then throw those elbows. He will through a laser right that will connect, and then clinch.
When Pac is trying to dart in, he will duck illegally low.
I'm almost sure of the above two.

If he won't do that, if he would anything stupid like you mofos suggest like "walk Pac down with a high guard and fire laser accurate rights" then he will be nothing but a glorified Clottey in the ring.

Pac on the other hand should master his in and out movement (very unlikely, TBH I was very disappointed with how he used this vs JMM), but if he can feint, dart in while Floyd is covering up, throw some combos and then move to the side, Floyd will have no answers.
By the time FMJ will be throwing his right, Pac has already circled around and moved out of range.
Worse, Pac can bait him instead of moving away and then throw another combination counter of his own.

 

Fine, one orthodox fighter hit Floyd harder once or twice than all the other southpaws.

 

He's also not a natural counter-puncher who waits and has the ability to beat PBF to the punch like Zab can.:deal The two fight nothing a like. I for the life of me don't understand why you can't grasp this concept. Zab's style is better suited to give PBF more problems than Pac's. Who doesn't jab is aggressive isn't patient not looking to counter. PBF loves a guy like Pac who comes at him wild. Especially one with short arms with no jab not cutting the ring who are wide open, he eats guys up like that for breakfast he's is a stylistic nightmare for Pac and the betting favorite in this fight for a reason.:deal

 

I wish Floyd agreed with you.

 

I wish Pac would agree to take less like he said.

 

Zab led as well as countered in that fight. Most of his lefts were leads or coming in behind a jab, and they landed because of his positioning.

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That right there is a liability.

 

It's too bad the fight will never happen. Window seems all but shut now.

 

YDKSAB! :bart

As a counter puncher you don't need an array of punches. You need the right punch at the right time. You also don't need tons of movement, why? A guy won't throw at what he doesn't think he can hit. This eliminates your countering opportunities. This is why counter punchers often fight with their hands down and staying a half step out of range. They NEED the opponent to throw to counter.

Manny isn't elite world class anything other than cherry picking. The JMM rematch showed us this. Manny evaded every single solid Boxer his entire career and STILL couldn't avoid losing and/or looking like a rank amateur. :deal

 

Positioning of the lead foot is very important in southpaw vs. ortho fights but it can be overemphasized. Floyd was able to land countless right hand leads while stepping inside of Ortiz lead foot. He would duck and move off to his right after throwing the punch to avoid counters. He was also able to defend Ortiz left hand even though Ortiz would get his lead foot on the outside of Floyd's. Also when jabbing you have to step inside the southpaws lead foot.