Pacquiao/Nonito Donaire

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PaoloMirani, May 24, 2011.


  1. Dear Leader

    Dear Leader Member Full Member

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    Yup, it's pretty sad. Which causes these people to be so hostile to them. Which ends up being one of their stereotypical traits.
     
  2. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    that's true. squatters/middle class, mostly uneducated people of metro manila belittle even the mestizos of the visayas and mindanao.

    that's regionalism. people in mega manila thought that they are superior compared to the people in the south. again, what's funny is that these people are mostly the uneducated ones.
     
  3. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    there have been jokes up here in North Luzon, specially in Baguio, that southern PI boxers have been producing champions because they were eating 'mais', whereas north luzon fighters eat 'kamote'. maybe that's why we do 'nangangamote' in championships hehehe. we're not good at boxing but we excel in wushu, kickboxing and that mother****ing mma (edward folayang is my neighbor here up north btw. I know, he's not that popular because he's an mma fighter lol)
     
  4. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    poverty, and i think boxing gyms are more available in that area, and the consciousness that there's hope in boxing is prevalent in that region compared to the northern part of the country. The north part of the country see's working in clubs, aspiring to become actors and actresses to be more enticing rather than having to punch each others face just to earn a living.
     
  5. elToro_Kabayo

    elToro_Kabayo New Member Full Member

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    Rolando Navarette is from Gen San too.
     
  6. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe, but I would say that before even Pac and Donaire got into boxing there had to be something they picked up as kids in Genral Santos City which DID contribute to their success as boxers. And like an earlier poster said, that city also had produced other champions like Navarette and that Sonsona kid. This can't be just coincidence IMO.
     
  7. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manuel Marquez, Rafael Marquez, and Israel Vazquez were all in the p4p top 10 at one time i believe, and all 4 are from Mexico City...But then again, Mexico City is HUGE, so yeah...
     
  8. Uncle Rico

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    I don't really like Donaire. I find him annoying for some bizarre reason.

    But Filipinos should be proud of having him and Manny. Two extremely gifted fighters.
     
  9. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now do you know of places outside the US where this has happened? Ive lived in BK and yes Bowe, Tyson all lived in BK...(Bedstuy/brownsville neighborhoods i think) but thats like saying alot of NBA players came from NY....ie; Stephon Marbury, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom all grew playing each other. Its not a fair comparison. Its the USA...**** its NYC, their path to success is a whole lot easier. There's alot of poor places on the US but you dont know poor until u hit up a third world country. Thats why I find it more incredible that a place such as GenSan has produced concurrent p4pers.

    And I also dont buy this notion that Donaire is from the Bay area and didnt get any kind of influence from GenSan. He spent his formative years there. The first 10 years of your life is the time you pick up ingrained traits, values, and characteristics. He may have honed his craft in SF but thats not to say he didnt get his swag from somewhere else. See its not boxing skills im talking about perse but attitude....that holds as much importance as the technical aspect of it, and like I said before there has to be some sort of inherent fighting culture in GenSan. I hear that area of the PI has Muslim insurgents for the longest....maybe that has something to do with it.
     
  10. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Isnt Mexico city the largest city in the world...top 5 at least.
     
  11. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Detroit has produced many champions and the state of Michigan even more!!! So this is nothing get over it!!!!
     
  12. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    I think it is. Its at least in the top 2 with Tokyo being the other one i believe.

    Barrera grew up in the middle class, not so sure about Izzy, but i do know The Marquez bros were from a poor/dangerous neighborhood.
     
  13. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Detroit is a shithole too, so I don't doubt people there have to fight for every scrap they get. No offense....to shitholes that is.
     
  14. PaoloMirani

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    I think there's something to that...where a region produces certain kinds of athletes either through the gene pool and or a combination with their upbringing. This is especially true if the sample population is smaller. I know the 757 area code of VA produces an inordinate amount of world class athletes of all kinds like Pernell, Michael Vick, Allen Iverson, Alonzo Mourning...and they all seem to be that the explosive fast twitch kind of athlete. On a grander scale you can see how a lot of Mexican fighters fight with that macho approach no matter how outgunned they are....this would be a more cultural influence .

    I do think in the case of GenSan, it is rare...being it is a city from a third world country of even which i understand is one of the poorest in the PI. Think about it, it is one of the poorest city in a poor country. And then you got the problem of proximity. It is hard enough for ANY Asian fighter to make it big in the USA, much less from this one tiny corner of a third world country.