Pacquiao or Sanchez...Which set of wins is more impressive?

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  1. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you read it all?? Did you understand my comparisons??? If not I'm not gonna waste time explaining it to an Ego maniac like you. I'll just gonna do my research, comparison & analysis. This for young guys who want to know more. In you case, I'm not gonna waste time with a Head case.
     
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  2. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You want to get into a name calling contest to deflect from the fact that you CAN'T respond to my posts.

    Egomaniac lol, this from the guy who calls himself "Guru" and creates threads to brag about a prediction 6 or 7 times. :thumbsup
     
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  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    In the early 1980s, Ali and Frazier were not on the pound for pound lists. Frazier's only fight in the 80s was a draw with Jumbo Cummings while Ali lost to Holmes and Berbick.

    Both were shot and had no business fighting.

    In today's era, Pacquiao generates more money than Sanchez did in his era. Why? Because promoters, PPVs, and the fact that ticket prices have gone up. It doesn't mean that his fights are more significant simply because of PPV buys and money.

    Before the time of his death, I remember the talk about a Sanchez/Arguello superfight. This would have been a massive event to the casual fan and general sports fans. More people talked about a potential fight between the two than I heard people talk about the actual fights between Pacquiao and Marquez, Barrera, or Morales.

    And bringing up popularity to argue greatness is so flawed, I don't even know where to begin. If popularity and PPV numbers equals greatness, then I guess Oscar De La Hoya is the GOAT. You brought up popularity to improve Pacquiao's ranking, when in reality, it does't mean a damn thing.

    What impressive about beating a smaller man? I don't know, the fact that he's considered unbeatable by many, considered the best fighter in boxing, and all but one of his fights ended in a knockout.

    At the time, Barrera was slipping. Still a great fighter, but slipping. He had many distractions leading up to the fight.

    On that night, Gomez was a more dangerous man.

    Yes, at the time, Nelson wasn't considered a legitimate threat. By my own admission, I didn't even know who he was before he fought Sanchez. But the fact that Sanchez struggled shouldn't take away from his win. Nelson proved himself to be a great fighter and was never stopped again.

    I'd take a green Nelson over a shot Morales and any version of Barrera. This win also surpasses the Marquez win for Pacquiao because Sanchez beat him convincingly whereas a majority of posters had Pacquiao losing.

    The younger posters on here haven't seen history in the making? Only you, and I, have?

    These "kids" are all witnessing significant portions of Manny Pacquiao's career.

    I guess you don't think that highly of Pacquiao then, for you not to consider these stages of his career history in the making.
     
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  4. PacDbest

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Sanchez_vs._Juan_Laporte

    Read this too. Sanchez vs Laporte.

    Salvador Sanchez had a record of 37 wins, one loss and one draw, with 29 knockouts. He had won the WBC world Featherweight championship by defeating Danny Lopez by a thirteenth round knockout on February 2 of that year. He followed that win with defenses against Ruben Castillo, Lopez in a rematch and Patrick Ford. Despite the fact that Sanchez was a world champion, he had reached celebrity status only in his native Mexico and among hardcore boxing fans. It was when Sanchez beat Wilfredo Gómez that it can be said Sanchez gained full celebrity status.

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    . He was known more than anywhere else in the New York area, having fought at the Madison Square Garden often during the early parts of his career. He sported a record of 15 wins and 1 loss, with 8 wins by knockout, coming into his bout with Sanchez.
     
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  5. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :hi:
    :hi: not wasting time.....
     
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  6. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    What the **** is your point? You're arguing that Pacquiao is better because his fans love him more? You're such a simple-minded fool. :patsch
     
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  7. PacDbest

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  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes.....and? LaPorte was a FW champion after Sanchez beat him AND a top 10 Featherweight for nearly a decade.

    You keep bringing up popularity as a measure of how good a fighter is. It certainly is not. But by all means, create criteria that helps Pacquiao stand out.
     
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  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Code for I have no response.

    Good to know.
     
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  10. PacDbest

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    read it analyse my previous post. I'm just backing my words by what's written in history.
     
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  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at his responses:rofl

    PacDbest = Bigtime9 in his prime.

    He simply creates a meaning for his position so that he has something to argue.
     
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  12. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:roflBeat me to it.
     
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  13. PacDbest

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    Top 10??? MAB, EM & JMM where are they rated??? #1, 2 , & 3 That's better than top 10. I told you guys Sanchez never beat the Man. That title belongs to Arguello. Pac beat the Man from 126-130. He has better resume. The only man Chava beat was Gomez, but he's the Bigger guy.
     
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  14. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    class dismiss!!!
     
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  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Run along......
     
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