Pacquiao or Sanchez...Which set of wins is more impressive?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by brooklyn1550, Mar 28, 2008.


  1. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you read everything I posted??? Laporte & Nelson was an unknown guys going into the fight. they're both inexperienced. Gomez is the smaller guy. how many times I have to repeat it!!!

    Skillwise, just watch all the videos. Compare it to the skills of JMM, EM & MAB. I pick the recent 3 Mex legends. This era is the best Featherweight bunch in History. Isn't it enough gauge????
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    You're not describing their respective styles, which is what KG asked you to do. Simply calling them inexperienced and small doesn't give people an idea as to how they fought. A fighter could be an inexperienced boxer, an inexperienced boxer-puncher, or an inexperienced pressure fighter for example. You get my point.

    As far as Marquez, Barrera, and Morales in comparison to Nelson, Gomez, and Lopez, I'd take all 3 of the Mexican greats over Lopez, Barrera and Marquez over Gomez, and Nelson over Marquez, Barrera, and Morales.

    I wouldn't call this era (2000-Present) the best in featherweight history either. It featured/features greats such as Pacquiao, Morales, Barrera, Marquez, and Hamed, but compare that to the 1980s crop of featherweights including Arguello, Sanchez, Nelson, Pedroza, and Gomez. I think it falls short because Arguello and Sanchez are clearly the two superior fighters between the two eras. And Nelson probably comes next in a head to head standpoint.

    And let's not forget the featherweight era which included Willie Pep, Sandy Saddler, and Chalky Wright. Pep is arguably a top 10 fighter all time, while Saddler makes most people's top 25-30. Adding to this, Pep is generally regarded as the greatest featherweight ever, with Saddler behind him. Pretty impressive era when you consider that.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unknown=Popularity.

    I asked you about their skills and what they were viewed as as BOXERS not entertainers and PPV numbers. Why is it you can't respond to the question asked?

    I don't need to watch the video's shortbus. I know what they look like. I am asking you to describe them to prove a point. YOU have never seen the fighters, yet you are making judgements on them. It's the very reason you can't answer my questions and keep referring to their popularity. You are calling them this and that based on their records. Mayweather was inexperienced when he beat Hernandez. Jones was inexperienced when he beat Hopkins. DLH was really inexperienced when he won his first title. The numbers don't tell you everything. Nelson, inexperienced, dynamite fighter. Lopez? Old, and could punch like a mule kicks. But you have never seen them, so you can't make any actual judgements.

    As for this FW era? In their primes, yes perhaps as a whole. It's debatable really. The 80's would get the nod in most polls. But they weren't all prime when Pacquaio got to them.
     
  4. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is that facts??? get me some real facts!!!!
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Your opinion that this era is the best in FW history isn't based on facts either.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You want all the facts? Or just the ones that make your story stand up?

    Facts need context. Learn it, live it, love it.
     
  7. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What does skills or style has to do with this Debate??? I already laid out the facts. Pac has more impressive win against a better opposition!!!!
     
  8. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I've always loved the way Sanchez fought:yep

    Manny's not done yet and though I think his ceiling will be 135? It's never over til the fat lady sings and never say never I suppose? I will say its UNLIKELY.
     
  9. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm here to show facts & only the truth. I'm not gonna twist it anymore just like you guys are doing. Sleep time now for me. Ok students read more about Boxing History!!! Ask Granpa & compare Today's fighter & from the 80s. Then come back here & contribute!!!!
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Stop dodging my question. Have you seen these fighters fight extensively or NOT PacD.

    Facts need context, something you seem more than willing to provide if it HELPS you. You provide positive context for Pacquiao's foes.

    IE. MAB was ranked #3 P4P. (How about, MAB had been in the ring for 14 years using a brutal style. One that has retired many Mexican fighters in their early 30's)

    Morales was ranked P4P. (He also was in the ring for 14yrs, AND lost 5 of his last 6 fights)

    See, those are facts too. You just leave out what you like.
     
  11. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    That's a ridiculous lie.

    Your list of fighters based on popularity was 100 percent opinion. You don't have any facts to support it.

    Run away like you always do.
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right....you never twist facts in Pacquiao's favor.

    2 times now you have left this thread and never once answered my post or questions. I think I have sufficiently proved my point.

    Perhaps you should try WATCHING the fighters lol....not reading Wikipedia.
     
  13. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I think you're the one who needs to learn a little bit about boxing history. Your avoidance of KG's question leads me to believe you have never seen Gomez, Nelson, Laporte, or Lopez in action.

    You could end this by just describing their styles, strengths, and weaknesses. Which, by the way, will be difficult considering Boxrec and Wikipedia don't tell you about them.
     
  14. psychopath

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  15. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you answer my simple question??? Where did you get your info about this 80s fighter??? Where did you see this fighter fights???