Pacquiao or Sanchez...Which set of wins is more impressive?

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  1. punch13

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  2. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao vs. Marquez fight in the first round should have been stop after the third knockdown.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Why?

    Marquez wasn't old cold, his eyes weren't rolling back, and there was no 3 knockdown rule. The ref made a judgement call, allowed Marquez to get up, and asked him a critical question. Smart move on his part because Marquez was able to continue and win most of the remaining rounds, winning on many people's scorecards.
     
  4. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    I still say both. We can't/shouldn't compare these guys. They fought different opposition and no way telling what would be the difference.
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well I would say based on two facts I would have to say Sanchez.

    Reason 1 Sanchez beat fighters in thier primes.

    Reason 2 Sanchez actually won those fights:good
     
  6. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Sanchez beating Gomez...That was godly.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tell us a little bit about Gomez and LaPorte PacD? Also elaborate on the career of Lopez....
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, but MOST believed he was shot. He was considered past it a bit when he fought MAB the 3rd time, and others had mentioned his slowing down. This wasn't in hindsight, as it was noticable that it WASN'T the weight because he was unsucessful just 5lbs higher. His body had broken down....He lost 5 of his last 6 fights. That is the very definition of a shot fighter.
     
  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is going to have to get back to you on that one. He needs to check box r e c . com first.:hey
     
  10. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remeber it was after Erik was outclassed by Raheem that everyone was saying that he was shot...It was after that when Pac won a fight with Erik..Before Erik won the first fight. I think that only a truely BLIND Pacbacker would say that Erik wasnt shot.
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And it wasn't that he lost to Raheem....he was outclassed!

    He was having trouble making 130 supposedly, so he moves up to 135 and is sluggish and gets beaten easily by an above average fighter with no power.

    He moves back down to 130 and is still sluggish and gets KO'd. If you can't make either weight class and you're reflexes are gone, it means your body has broken down.
     
  12. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    check my previous post.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. You posted a boxrec link. Anyone can do that and it tells you little.

    Tell me about their careers, highlights, how they were perceived. You're post on Pacquaio's opponents, you keep referring to how the fighters weres perceived and the context the fight happened in. If you are going to compare objectively (as you claim to be doing) you will be able to tell us some of the context around those 3 fighters, and how they were perceived. So, tell me about them.
     
  14. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    KG I'm older than you. I was a young teenager when this guys fought. I don't think you're even born when this guys were the stars. I've seen them live on delayed telecast. All the information about them is well documented in the net. Boxrec can't lie. It's well documented. Check wiki too.
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, and my father is older than me. I can talk circles around him in a sports debate. Age has little to do with this as you well know, otherwise you would never debate with older members. I have seen more boxing than you (you missed at least 13 years worth even if you're not lying about the 80's and you're watching the fighters then)

    I never said boxrec lied, I simply said it doesn't tell you everything, especially context. You elaborated on the context of Pacquiao's opponents. I am asking you, in fairness, to do so as well with Sanchez's for the sake of objectivity, something you brought up when questioning Brooklyn.

    Now are you going to actually answer the question or not? I am not asking you to elaborte because I don't know, but because I know that YOU don't know. Which is why you are dodging the question. I also think you're lying about seeing them. Now stop stalling.