Pacquiao or Sanchez...Which set of wins is more impressive?

Sanchez beat a green Nelson in Nelsons 10th pro fight.. And it wasnt easy..Nelson would have wrecked him abit later.

Gomez was superb at 122..but he stepped up and never did well at 126..got blown out by Nelson as well

Otherswise sanchez struggled with his other title defenses...

He was a great fighter but was Diefied when he died just like everyone else famous who died early..I can understand that

 

Coz I'm at work & no time to give you a long post.

 

Doubtful.

You may very well be at work. But your response to Brooklyn was long. And you neglected all the info I am asking for in that post. You posted a boxrec link for Sanchez and his foes, and you elaborated on Pacquiao's resume. I stand by my initial assessment. Especially since instead of posting to me 3 seperate times, you could have answered the question by now.

 

How so? That Nelson gave Sanchez problems for a few reasons. One being his constant pressure, which a prime Nelson didn't use in the same manner, but rather opted to box and become a more well-rounded fighter. That style plays more into Sanchez's hands, as he was a better boxer than Nelson would ever be. Second, as has been discussed, Sanchez fought often to the level of his competition, and had to adapt to Nelson during their fight, as he likely didn't take him as seriously off the bat as he did someone like Gomez. I used to think similarly to what you just said, but when you look at it closer, it's not that simple at all.

A far past his prime Gomez lost at 130 to Nelson. Gomez was the top P4P fighter in the world when he stepped up 4 pounds to face Sanchez.

Such as? He struggled early on, pre-prime with guys like Badillo, and in one of his defenses against Cowdell, but once again, fought to the level of his competition, and looked his best when faced with the best, such as Gomez and Lopez.

Such as Pancho Villa?

 

Well Pac was knockedout when he was a younger fighter, and hasnt had it easy with past thier prime fighters.

One thing that you are forgetting to mention.....Nelsons is one of the greateast fighters ever at 126. Young or not he was a great fighter. There has been plenty times when a young fighter that went on to become great has beat a older great fighter later in his career.

Robinson beat Armstrong, Lamotta and Zivic all in his first three years as a pro.

Leonard beat Benitez and Duran in his first three years as a pro.

Point being its nothing to be ashamed of for Sanchez to have a tough fight with a young Nelson. Its more shameful that Pac was knockedout by two nobodies.:good

 

Coz early in the morning I'm not busy. I'm busy now. see u later guys.

 

Except that it follows the same pattern you always do. You'll never answer the question I asked. That's fine....it was amusing to watch your tip toe around it.

 

Owned.

It's obvious Pacquiao's set of wins are inferior to Sanchez's (plus one of those "wins" should be a loss) and it's even more obvious Sanchez would have destroyed any version of Pac. Pacquiao's biggest win by far is the first MAB fight. Without that fight, Pacquiao's set of wins are not great enough to even make him a top 100 ATG. Beating Casamayor wouldn't mean anything IMO because I believe Casamayor is nearly shot, but beating Juan Diaz, Campbell, or Guzman would be very big.. the biggest win since the MAB one in 2001.

 

LOL on PacDBESt always relying on boxrec when it comes to boxer's records

 

in hindsight you can say that he was a shot fighter because he lost 5 of his last 6 fights, 3 of them was a war against pac. he was past his prime after the barrera trilogy but no no way he was shot when he beaten pac the 1st time. during the raheem fight, the issue was still primary the weight coz morales fought over the weight limit even at 135. i don't deny that he is past his prime but that morales who fought pac the 2nd time around can still beat any top 130 pounder during that time. saying morales was shot there is a convenient way to discredit pac's win and preserve morales' indestructible image whom only a barrera can beat.

 

:good

 

It isn't convenient. I said he was shot before he fought Pacquaio the FIRST time. I could just as easily say it is convenient to dismiss the fact that he lost 5 of his last 6. And while 2 of those were to Pacquiao and one was to Barrera (a far past it MAB), he also lost to Raheem and David Diaz, neither of which is a great fighter, or really even good fighters. They are above average guys. One's Morales would have beaten easily in his prime or even slightly past it. Everything points to him being shot. Weight issues while applicable, only go so far. He couldn't make 130 OR 135? No, he could make 135....he made it against Diaz. He just wasn't the same fighter.

I don't care one bit about preserving Morales "indestructable" image. Never have. He never was indestructable and I can think of a few fighters in each division he was in that could beat him besides MAB.

 

i don't know about everyone's definition of a shot fighter but can you please define yours?

 

I have seen a beating like that since Sweet Pea laid the law down in the Classic forum.:yikes

 

Losing 5 of your last 6 is a good start.