Pacquiao running out of Superfight at his weightclass???

JMotrain · Nov 11, 2007

If Pac and Duran fought at 135, Duran would end his career.

PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

JMotrain said:

If Pac and Duran fought at 135, Duran would end his career.
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But this not Duran Vs Pac. I'm just comparing their Legacy. Duran made his with his Lightweight Reign & for beating SRL the 1st time.

Pac made his by moving at Higher weight Class & still becomes dominant. Very few in History of Boxing can Match Pac's Impressive showing of Power & speed 7 wt classes above his original wt class.

Pac Today is the Modern day Duran, Both Dominated the Lower wt Class. Now Pac was being enticed to moved up to 147 to fight Hatton, PBF or DLH just like when Duran moved up to face SRL.

Gsand · Nov 12, 2007

PacDbest said:

Anybody from 135 & Below doesn't stand a Chance now with this Present Day bigger Pac. Look at how Pac dominate EM & MAB lately. Pac just Played & Carried Larios, Solis & MAB. EM beat him the 1st time & Pac learned not to underestimate opponents anymore, so He destroyed EM In their rematch & Rubbermatch.

Soto, Guzman, & Valero are a threat but there's no Money there. They need to make a name for themselves first before Pac considers them. I believe JMM fight is next but even the Mexicans are not embracing him yet. Very few of the Mex I'd talk to give JMM any Chance.

At 135 Casa is Done, the guy who schooled him is just Pac's former Sparring Partner. Even Manny Steward said , around rd 9, "if Pac was there, Casa will already been KOed". David Diaz is a Nobody but a paper title, Only Juan Diaz is the Marketable fighter but Juan featherfisted style is made for Pac. I don't think he has a chance at all.

Pac needs to beat JMM next march, Then moved up to beat Juan D & make it look easy. If Pac beat these 2, forget about Soto, Valero, & Guzman for now. JMM will serve at a Gate keeper for these 3 before they can be considered with Pac. By this time there will be buzz in Boxing about these Pac vs Hatton/PBF matchup & this fight will finally be made. We're not talking about the 130 lbs Pac here, we;re talking about a much bigger Pac now, the one that don't need to starve anymore to make weight. All Pac has to do is Eat right & just trained hard. The Monster Pac we've witness in Morales 3 is rehydrated overnight Pac, imagine a not rehydrated Monster Pac???

I give Pac a good Chance beating Hatton & give 50% Chance with Floyd.
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no no no, this is an incredible dream. Pac's style will; not transfer past 135

Pac vs Hatton/Mayweather at 140 or higher = Pacicide

ThePlugInBabies · Nov 12, 2007

hatton and mayweather would **** pacman up, potential career ruining fights.

mayweather would pick him to pieces and hatton would maul him brutally.

you pac nuts are ****ing insane.

PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

Gsand said:

no no no, this is an incredible dream. Pac's style will; not transfer past 135

Pac vs Hatton/Mayweather at 140 or higher = Pacicide
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JUst watch how easy will Pac annihilate 135.

Sweet Pea Pacquiao · Nov 12, 2007

PacDbest said:

http://ringsidereport.com/rsr/news.php?readmore=2044

This a good article discussing why Pac vs Hatton or PBF could happen in the near future. Pac needs a Superfight.

Pac vs any from 135 & below will only Draw the same or lesser PPV buy that what they draw from EM & MAB fights.

Pac will probably fight the loser of PBF-Hatton in the near future. If it's Hatton they can do it at 140 title. If PBF maybe at a Catchweight below 140. I'm sure they'll take the fight with Pac coz it will Pay more than fighting the Big welters like Margarito & Williams.

For Pac, He can keep on fighting 130-135 fighters & keep winning. Fighting with Bigger Hatton & PBF will command triple his current purse.
Pac can lose but the worst thing that could happen to him is a KO body shot from Hatton & a schooling from PBF. But the exposure he can get on those fights will bring him more fans & will crossover him in the mainstream. Let say he lose, he can come back to 130-135 & dominate there again but this time he's already exposed to the mainstream, therefore bringing more PPV buys that equate to bigger purse.

If he wins, more Money & more Glory for his Legacy & his all time greatness will be secure.
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Are you serious? Pacquiao is too small for 140, and PBF is never gonna come down for Pacquiao to 140 either. There's no way Pacquiao ever fights at 147 to counter your next point.

In all honesty, from one Pacquiao fan to another, you really need to stop with these threads like Pac-DLH or Pac-PBF. They are pretty ridiculous and give the rest of us Pacman fans a bad name.

PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

ThePlugInBabies said:

hatton and mayweather would **** pacman up, potential career ruining fights.

mayweather would pick him to pieces and hatton would maul him brutally.

you pac nuts are ****ing insane.
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Pac Legacy are good for at least top 50 ATG, How come his career would be ruined. He's not just a Prospect. He's already a Multi Millionaire. It's Great vs Great fighters. We thought already Pac ruined MAB in the 1st fight, but MAB still continued & still have some Great wins after that. Losing to Hatton or PBF will prove only that Pac already hit his Limit. But the money Pac can make on that fight will be enough to retire anyway. But if he wins??? How you going to rate him in P4P ATGreatness???

PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

Sweet Pea Pacquiao said:

Are you serious? Pacquiao is too small for 140, and PBF is never gonna come down for Pacquiao to 140 either. There's no way Pacquiao ever fights at 147 to counter your next point.

In all honesty, from one Pacquiao fan to another, you really need to stop with these threads like Pac-DLH or Pac-PBF. They are pretty ridiculous and give the rest of us Pacman fans a bad name.
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Victor Ortiz, who KO Maussa in 1 rd, who will be a title Challenger at 140 soon is just Pac Sparring Partner in the his 3rd Morales fight. The Present 135 Lineal title Holder in My BOOk Sta Cruz is Just Pac's Sparring Partner. Did you hear this 2 sparring partners claimed that they bested Pac in Sparring???? Fighting 140 pounder is no Problem with Pac. Fighting a Small welter like Floyd who comes in at fightnight at 149 lbs is not a Big handicapped for Pac. Pac has Matching speed & Power to give Floyd a Fight.

Sweet Pea Pacquiao · Nov 12, 2007

PacDbest said:

Victor Ortiz, who KO Maussa in 1 rd, who will be a title Challenger at 140 soon is just Pac Sparring Partner in the his 3rd Morales fight. The Present 135 Lineal title Holder in My BOOk Sta Cruz is Just Pac's Sparring Partner. Did you hear this 2 sparring partners claimed that they bested Pac in Sparring???? Fighting 140 pounder is no Problem with Pac. Fighting a Small welter like Floyd who comes in at fightnight at 149 lbs is not a Big handicapped for Pac. Pac has Matching speed & Power to give Floyd a Fight.
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I might be wrong here, but have you ever boxed before? Because if you did, you would know that fighters spar others above and below their weight classes, because that's what it is...SPARRING!!!

If it is your training camp, your sparring partners are getting paid to either mimic the opponent's style or give conditioning rounds, NOT for the sparring partners to execute their own gameplans and knock out the fighter they are getting PAID to prepare.

Ivan Calderon (105) sparred Shane Mosley (147) a couple months ago. Does that mean they should meet in a superfight at a catchweight of 126?

Kostya Tszyu (140) once sparred Sam Soliman (160). Does this mean that KT would annihilate SS at 150?

Again, you are EMBARASSING the rest of the Pacquiao fans here on this board. If Pacquiao loses in the future, we will bear the brunt of your "garbagespeak" as much as you do.

PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

Sweet Pea Pacquiao said:

I might be wrong here, but have you ever boxed before? Because if you did, you would know that fighters spar others above and below their weight classes, because that's what it is...SPARRING!!!

If it is your training camp, your sparring partners are getting paid to either mimic the opponent's style or give conditioning rounds, NOT for the sparring partners to execute their own gameplans and knock out the fighter they are getting PAID to prepare.

Ivan Calderon (105) sparred Shane Mosley (147) a couple months ago. Does that mean they should meet in a superfight at a catchweight of 126?

Kostya Tszyu (140) once sparred Sam Soliman (160). Does this mean that KT would annihilate SS at 150?

Again, you are EMBARASSING the rest of the Pacquiao fans here on this board. If Pacquiao loses in the future, we will bear the brunt of your "garbagespeak" as much as you do.
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Before you say I'm an embarrassment, check how i Predict & analyze Fights. See How I accurately Predict a Fight. My track record is very Good. I do my Homework, I got almost all of Pac's fight on DVD. I recorded all PBF & Hatton fight I could find. I already analyze their Strength & Weeknesses. I give Pac a good Chance beating them. Their not Monster size welters. Did you hear me say Pac KOs hearns, SRL, Margarito, SRR, & all this Big welters??? Pac is on a great time that the best Money fight at 140 & 147 are 2 small welters. If this time is the SRL-Hearns era, I woundn't recommend Pac fighting above 135.

aramini · Nov 12, 2007

I once loved Pac but he looked really lethargic and uninspired in the MAB II fight, and I can see JMM beating that version, and Juan Diaz steamrolling him. Pac is the kind of fighter that overwhelms you with workrate and decent power - he is not as great a boxer as Duran, and Pac is not the kind of fighter who can beat up someone much, much bigger than him, especially if they are more technically sound to boot. If he doesn't come in shape for Marquez, he will get outboxed.

He doesn't have a chance against hatton or mayweather.

PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

aramini said:

I once loved Pac but he looked really lethargic and uninspired in the MAB II fight, and I can see JMM beating that version, and Juan Diaz steamrolling him. Pac is the kind of fighter that overwhelms you with workrate and decent power - he is not as great a boxer as Duran, and Pac is not the kind of fighter who can beat up someone much, much bigger than him, especially if they are more technically sound to boot. If he doesn't come in shape for Marquez, he will get outboxed.

He doesn't have a chance against hatton or mayweather.
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I myself was dissapointed with that fight. The Pac you saw in MAB II is an unmotivated Pac. He knew he can easily beat MAB. He just carried MAB the whole fight. He needs a Bigger Challenges to bring out the best of Him again. That's why he's looking at 135 lbs Juan Diaz. The JMM we saw who struggles with Jaca & MAB I think will be an easy kill for Pac. I still want to see that fight happen just to silence the Critics.

I want Pac to Beat these two Juan first, then let the Pac vs Hatton /PBF be made. I'm sure if Pac dominates these two Juans, you will agree with me with Pac-Hatton/PBF fight.

Guru_Too_You · Nov 12, 2007

dangerousity said:

Duran stayed there to fight Hagler at his own game and stayed there. You would think that a heavy hitter and a true MW would blast a LW out who stands there in front of him. Duran is a crafty ******* but he took some shots, and he gave some shots. I just think weight is being severely overrated here, dont forget that PBF was once a FW too. Its like Pac was a BW too and I think if Pac & Rafa were to meet at 126, it would be a hell of a fight and Pac wont necesarily steamroll Rafa cos his the bigger man. Afterall, they made the same weight on weighin.

Lets not get carried away here. Carlos Hernandez took PBF the whole 12 rounds, Pac is more skilled, more durable and more powerful than Hernandez. Pac will make the distance and probably win some rounds too.

PBF UD & I take Hatton via bodyshot KO. If I were to pay for a fight it would be Hatton/Pac cos it would be a bloody mess.
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The Hernandez reference is useless unless PBF were to break his hand against Pacman.

PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

El Rey said:

:yep:rofl:yep:rofl You would you ****ing loon. :nut
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I check your Predictions, you're no good. You're a Moron pretending to be smart.

El rey recent Predictions: Diaz-Diaz:

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PacDbest · Nov 12, 2007

Guru_Too_You said:

The Hernandez reference is useless unless PBF were to break his hand against Pacman.
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That could happen coz Pac's chin at 130 are Granite. If than Happen PBF will be annihilated.

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