Pacquiao - still considered the #1 Welterweight boxer in the world

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Basically lost two fights in a row and ranked 1st ****ing bull****.
     
  2. pingree24

    pingree24 Active Member Full Member

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    it is bull**** then boxing fans wonder why other ppl laugh at boxing
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    first of all, it's not close. bradley won one clear round (the 10th) and it's because pac didn't do anything at all in that round and took the round off. second, even if you take into account the official decision (which is a robbery for at least every boxing fans, except some *****s and idiots) it's a SD and pac has done much much much more than tim at WW.

    so anyone crying that he should not be the #1 guy at WW, it would look foolish if you have guys like bradley, ortiz, berto or bailey #1 at the weight.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

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    cause it's not a robbery.


    • Blake Dreisbach, BleacherReport.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Ron Borges, The Sweet Science/Boston Herald/Ring Magazine: 117-112 Marquez
    • Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
    • Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Marquez
    • Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Michael Marley, The Examiner: 115-113 Marquez
    • Mike Coppinger, RingTV.com: 115-113 Marquez
    • Al Bernstein: 115-113 Marquez
    • Wayne McCullough: 115-113 Marquez
    • Ryan Maquinana, ***********.com: 116-113 Marquez
    • Matt Hamilton, EsNews.com: 116-115 Marquez
    • Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Marquez
    • Bob Sheridan: 115-114 Marquez
    • John Katsilometes, Las Vegas Sun: 115-114 Marquez
    • Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com: 117-113 Marquez
    • Bill Dwyer, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
    • Pedro Fernandez, RingTalk.com: 116-113 Marquez
    • Chris Williams, BoxingNews24.com: 117-111 Marquez
    • Eric Raskin, TheSweetScience.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Lyle Fitzsimmons, The Sports Network: 116-112 Marquez
    • Steve Bunce, BBC: 117-111 Marquez
    • Matt Lynch, BoxingToday: 116-112 Marquez
    • Chuck Giampa, Retired Boxing Judge: 116-112 Marquez
    • Glyn Leach, Boxing Monthly: 115-113 Marquez
    • Briggs Seekins, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Marquez
    • Oly Goldstein, BadLeftHook.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Johnny Benz, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-111 Marquez
    • Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
    • George Willis, New York Post: 115-113 Marquez
    • Rich Thomas, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Raj Parmar, 3MoreRounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
    • Norm Frauenheim, 15Rounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
    • Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports: 115-113 Marquez
    • James Slater, EastSideBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Nick Tylwalk, BoxingWatchers.com: 115-113 Marquez
    • Bob Velin, USAToday: 115-113 Marquez
    • Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Marquez
    • Igor Guryashkin, ESPN: Marquez by one round
    • Brent Brookhouse, SB Nation: 115-113 Marquez
    • Will Cooling, FOX Sports/InsideFights: 118-110 Marquez
    • Andrew Fruman, The Boxing Bulletin: 116-112 Marquez
    • Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 115-113 Marquez
    • Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 115-113Marquez
    • Dan Ambrose, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian: 117-114 Marquez
    • Paul Magno, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
    • Jerry Izenberg, Newark Star-Ledger: 115-114 Marquez
    • Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
    • Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Marquez
    • Fox Doucette, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
    • Henry Ramirez, Boxing Trainer: 116-113 Marquez
    • Thomas Hauser, SecondsOut.com: 116-113 Marquez
    • Gerardo Granados, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Marquez
    • Robert Guerrero: 116-112 Marquez
    • Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
    • Graham Shaw, SportingLife.com: 116-113 Marquez
    • Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
    • Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Draw
    • Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
    • Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
    • Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN/Reuters: 114-114 Draw
    • Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
    • Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
    • george Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Anthony Whitby, BoxingIQ.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Jeff Powell, The Daily Mail (UK): 114-114 Draw
    • Pace Miller, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
    • Larry Merchant, HBO: 114-114 Draw
    • Elie Seckbach, ESNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
    • Roy Jones, Jr.: Draw
    • Joe Bruiser, FightFan.com: 116-116 Draw
    • Michael Wright, ESPNChicago.com: Draw
    • Mark Lichtenfeld, Ring Announcer/Member, Ring Magazine Ratings Panel: 114-114 Draw
    • Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/Inductee, California Boxing Hall of Fame: 115-115 Draw
    • ****** Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 114-114 Draw
    • Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
    • Gary Andrew Pool, The Atlantic: 114-114 Draw
    • Beau Denison, SportsPageMagazine.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Daniel Herbert, Boxing News: 114-114 Draw
    • Leighton Ginn, Desert Sun (Palm Springs): 114-114 Draw
    • Doveed Linder, BoxingTalk.com: 114-114 Draw
    • Bob Papa, HBO: 114-114 Draw
    • Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
    • Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
    • Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 114-114 Draw (Note: At the end of his live blog of the fight, he indicated his belief that Marquez had won; however, in his round-by-round, he scored Rounds 1-2, 5-7 and 12 for Marquez and Rounds 3-4 and 8-11 for Pacquiao.)
    • Kevin Cunningham, Boxing Trainer: Draw
    • Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Will Carroll, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
    • Chris Koegler, TheRealHook.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • David Kassel, FightHype.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Rob Rutz, MyBoxingFans.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
    • Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Brian Mazique, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Glen Anglin, BoxingNews24.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Skip Bayless, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    • Bill Shimizu, Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Massimo Lopes Pegna, La Gazzetta dello Sport (Italy): 115-114 Pacquiao
    • James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    • Anthony Lee, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Nick Fors, Pasionsports.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Ronald Geronimo, NowBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Danny Serratelli, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Sean Faye, Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
    • Scott Shaffer, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
    • Mike Chiari, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Patrick L. Stumberg, SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Jason Peck, EastSideBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
    • Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
    • Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Ben Weisman, BoxingAsylum.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
    • Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
    • Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Madra Uladh, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Michael Woods, ESPN/TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    • Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
    • "Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    • Greg Leon, BoxingTalk.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    • Steve Marzolf, InsideHBOBoxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    • Darrell La Montre, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    • Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
    • Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: 115-113 Pacquiao

    • None of the above scores for Marquez or a draw is from Mexican media/boxers.
    • None of the above scores for Pacquiao or a draw is from Philippine media/boxers.
    • Among the unofficial scorers above, 57 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw.
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1595865
     
  5. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Who cares???
    Manny ain't gonna fight the guys in the rankings anyway...
    (@ this stage of his career)

    Him & Floyd both should be removed.
    A "Superfight" ranking should be made.
    (For that once a year fighter)
     
  6. Norbix

    Norbix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is Berto up there if he was caught cheating?
     
  7. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a joke. I don't think he lost, but to keep him at number one is ridiculous.
     
  8. pingree24

    pingree24 Active Member Full Member

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    pac didn't do anythin the first 2mins of every rd the whole fight what about that? and i don't care what he did 2 yrs ago or last yr ago only thing that matters is your last figght which he lost. there for he should be NO HIGHER THAN 2nd on that list . pac lost in november if you want to go by your logic then didn't he?
     
  9. pingree24

    pingree24 Active Member Full Member

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    you can list a million names you ****** it won't change the fact that he lost and that was no blowout like you think i had tim winning tby 2rds on this sites rbr pac did nothing for 2mins of every rd and tried stealing rds in the last min
     
  10. pingree24

    pingree24 Active Member Full Member

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    he lost thru inactivty and if he is so sure he can win as you are have a rematch and prove it tim should be number 1 pac number 2 and jmm number 3
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    and what did bradley did for the whole 3 minutes of each round except from hitting pac's gloves and his head snapping back from pac's punches? even with an obvious robbery, all bradley can do is win* a SD. bradley is the #1 LWW. if he wants to became the #1 WW, he needs a clear win and not an obvious gift.
     
  12. pingree24

    pingree24 Active Member Full Member

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    he did more then pac in those 2min it got him the win didn't it? these rankings are crap pac arguably lost his last 2 fights noway he is number 1 and when floyd comes back at ww he won't be. when floyd comes back it should look like this #1floyd #2tim #pac #4 jmm and im not sure pac can beat any of the 3
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    :lol:

    you cannot argue that pac lost his last fight. giving bradley 4 rounds is quite generous already and you are giving him more than 6? :rofl

    so basically it comes down to floyd? if he comes down to 147, you'll rank him at #1 never mind that all he has beaten at WW recently was the overhyped ortiz who had beat another overhype berto.
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    here btw is "your" no.1 WW....


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  15. DrMo

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    Get over it ffs. Pac got a lucky decision against Juan & dropped a decision to Bradley, its part of the sport

    Its nowhere near the worst robbery in the world & crying about it isnt gonna change anything