Pacquiao through the years with pictures

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  1. Andrew671

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    Do you realize that a pregnancy test is for hCG only? hCG is not a steroid hormone.


    "clomid"


    There are aromatase inhibitors or estrogen receptor blockers with shorter half lives then clomid.
     
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  2. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    u r not pacman...u are just a guy who sits on the couch...and ummm some is fat blah blah...is not gaining 30 lbs of muscle u NOOB CLOWN
     
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  3. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    but how do you distinguish a base line for a person. lets say he was taking androderm 5mg daily to give himself the test levels of a 21 year old bloke with a supercar how is the blood test going to show that he is basicly on TRT.

    witht he cash he is earning he could well have got his hands on some SARM's and then have fun trying to find them.

    blood testing is bollocks its all about not getting cought the testers are looking for specific molecules how hard is it for a lab to bind and extra nitrogen or oxygen moleclue to change the chemicall compositiong while maintaining most of the original function that is not going to get pulled up in a blood test. I can tell you the answer to that and it is ****ing easy
     
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  4. Andrew671

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    The normal blood testosterone levels for men are 10-30 ng/ml or somewhere around that range.
    ANything higher or lower is considered abnormal. They don't have to estabilish baseline. That's not how these tests work. If you're over 30 ng/ml that is considered abnormal and you'll fail the test.
     
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  5. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    no but if he is cycling the negative feedback would leave him with the test levels of a 12 year old girl and hcg is about the only way to get your body making test again back your your natural levels
     
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  6. Bee KeepZ

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    Do you think every physician that prescribe blood pressure medication, is on a BP med?

    They sure know how it works though.

    Well you need to do some more RESEARCH. This is a good place to start.

    Steroid Hormones

    The second mechanism involves steroid hormones, which pass through the plasma membrane and act in a two step process. Steroid hormones bind, once inside the cell, to the nuclear membrane receptors, producing an activated hormone-receptor complex. The activated hormone-receptor complex binds to DNA and activates specific genes, increasing production of proteins.
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    The action of steroid hormones. Images from Purves et al., Life: The Science of Biology, 4th Edition, by Sinauer Associates (www.sinauer.com) and WH Freeman (www.whfreeman.com), used with permission.

    FYI: Glucocorticoid is also a steroid.
     
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  7. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    well i am classed as abnormal then as in my last blood work i was running at 37 and i can tell you now that my ass has never had any PED's in it.
     
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  8. Andrew671

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    No, there are a lot of aromatase blockers and estrogen receptor blockers you can take besides hCG.
    ALSo eventually on a short cycle especially if one doesn't use a dose of steroids which is pretty high, the brain will reset itself, it just takes a couple of weeks, without any estrogen blockers.
     
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  9. Andrew671

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    You'll have to google the exact numbers of total t levels, because I just quoted something from the top of my head.
    Also the numbers may be given in ng/dl or other SI values, yielding different ranges.
     
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  10. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    :good
     
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  11. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    ok so i am on a low dose short cycle and i stop without using any PCT answer me 2 questions.

    1. is my natural test levels going to drop to levels below when i started.

    2. will i lose very minimal gains made on short very low dose cycle before my natural test levels get back up to normal.
     
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  12. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    3700ng/dl is the actual value on my last blood tests
     
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  13. Andrew671

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    Yes, but it will not matter if you lose your gains after the fight, does it?
    Therefore you could take steroids up till the fight, and not take any afterwards, and any losses you may have are irrelevant.
     
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    Well that is impossible because the normal range is: 300 -1,000 ng/dL. It was determined that 99.5% of all men fall within 2 standard deviations of the mean, therefore 99.5% of men have T levels between 300-1000 mg/dl. So yes, you would fail a steroid test even though you may not be on steroids.
    I doubt you could have T levels of 3000 ng/dl (which is 3x above the upper limit of the reference range) without some major disease or medications.

    Maybe your value is using the SI reference range. Some countries for example Canada use this.
     
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  15. ghostlybadge

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    using test gel on a highly trained athelete with already high levels of test would have to be monitered daily to get as close to the limit without going over it. the half life is not minuites it is hours so go overboard on it and your going to be over in your blood test.


    So what profesional athelete is not using test gel/patches
     
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