Pacquiao through the years with pictures

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Andrew671, Dec 28, 2009.


  1. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hatton moiled down from 175, Im pretty sure hatton would not be competitive at 168, 160, 154, or 147 , why ? because he does not have the muscle mass or strength to compete at that weight, his lean body mass of 140 is his optimal weight.

    Now if your saying pac was walking around at 147 8% fat and still making 126 or even 130 your ****ing kidding yourself. That type of weight loss would have shorten his career and put his health at risk.
     
  2. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    14 pounds of muscle would be even easier (30% easier to be precise) which is what the guy is now claiming!!!
     
  3. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At least, he wants the test. What about the pacman?
     
  4. Andrew671

    Andrew671 Member Full Member

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    Yes, I am saying it is. An athlete who's already performing at their max does not simply gain 14 pounds of muscle from 26 to 31 while their anabolic hormone profile is declining. After 25-27 years of age testosterone declines incrimentally every year unless he's doing something very special.
    I think he's strength coach needs further scrutiny.
     
  5. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good :lol: Ah****ingmen!
     
  6. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hatton's a ****ing boozehound who blows up in weight between fights. There's no ****ing comparison. :rofl

    Again, you're throwing out weights, body fat %'s, etc., and you have zero ****ing clue as to what Pac's walking around weight was/is, how much he boiled down, etc. Yet, you have no problem crucifying the guy with zero proof.

    Disgusting.
     
  7. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have looked at both sides of you guys arguing and all I can say is yallz who think Manny is on steroids sound like dumb ass maowfukahs.
     
  8. Andrew671

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    Don't get me wrong. I am not saying this in itself is evidence that Pac used steroids.
    I am saying together with the other evidence such as:

    -he refuses random tests a month before the fight, exactly when steroid testing is crucial
    -he carried his power from the lower weight classes and actually has a higher KO percentage
     
  9. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    What about him Bill? Don't tell me your another person who has passed judgement on a great fighter without one shred of proof? The man is only in the spot-light because Mayweather's Dad put him there! Personally I do not believe either is on anything and all this bollocks is absurd!
     
  10. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is the burden of proof on Manny? come on now, dude has done nothing wrong his entire career. Never been caught. His only sin is that he beat his opponents to a pulp and that PBF is scared shitless and jealous of Pac's shine. If pac submits to a blood test it is out of his own volition.. It is up to you guys who think he is roiding to prove it not him. He was willing to do it after the fight, I don't see wat is wrong wid that. yall ni99as trippin.
     
  11. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    Are you trying to say that a person can't gain anymore weight after 25-27 year of age?

    Dude, I'm not sure if you've heard how he works out. The man works out like an animal. If you think he's doing something SPECIAL, well he does. He works out for about 5 hours (excluding his road work) without a break. Working out increases the activity of hormones in a person's body. Also, if you have a healthy life style, it's not impossible to gain those kind of muscles even if you're 35.

    I don't really wanna play this card but, IMO Asians have a healthier life style than Americans.
     
  12. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    You should really read up on how steroids work.

    Steroids work because they work in direct expression to the the gene and they work faster because they are lipophilic.

    Hormone binds to the receptor -> receptor binds to hormone response element (HRE) in the DNA -> produces an activating response -> transcription of mRNA -> mRNA is translated to proteins by ribosomes.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=gO...ipophilic hormones on the target cell&f=false
     
  13. AdiC

    AdiC Chillin' Like A Villain Full Member

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    Here's Pacquiao's weights in the last 4 years:
    Pacquiao vs. Morales 3: November, 2006 - Pacquiao's weight inside the ring was 144 lbs.
    Pacquiao vs. Barrera 2: October 2007 He was 144 during fight night.
    Pacquiao vs. Marquez 2: March 2008 - Pacquiao's weight during the fight was 145.
    Pacquiao vs. Diaz: June 2008 - Pacquiao went up to lightweight for the first time and on fight night re-hydrated to 147.
    Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya: December, 2008 - The limit for the fight was 147 and on fight night Pacquiao weighed 148 1/2.
    Pacquaio vs. Hatton: May, 2009 - Pacquiao weighed 148.
    Pacquiao vs. Cotto: November, 2009 - There were no in-ring weights given but my insiders told me Pacquiao weighed around 149.
    That's a five pound increase in 4 years!!! Wow! Steroids huh?!?
     
  14. Andrew671

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    The burden of proof is not on Manny. Therefore what we can say right now is that we do not KNOW that Manny used steroids, but it is reasonable to assume he MAY have used steroids and that he likely is HIDING something based on the three lines of evidence:

    a. he refuses to take a random blood test in the month leading up to the fight when steroids are used
    b. he has put on a large amount of muscle mass in the past 5 years
    c. without losing his power or speed
     
  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So if someone....anyone claimed Floyd Jr was gay and the only way to prove it was to submit to a substantial anal cavity test to prove he's innocent that would be arlight? And if he refused it would only make him look more suspicisous?:huh

    Really? Even though Floyd has never been seen with anther man in a questionable way, has never been known to frequent alternative life style locations and has have women companions in the past.

    Just b/c someone says something doesn't mean you have to jump through their hoops to prove them wrong. You take it for what its worth......un-substantiated rumors and keep it moving.