Pacquiao-Thurman or Mayweather-Canelo: What Is The Greater Win???

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Pacquiao-Thurman or Mayweather-Canelo: What Is The Greater Win???

  1. Pacquiao's Win Over Thurman

  2. Mayweather's Win Over Canelo

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  1. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    I don't care what you expect of me, and I have zero responsibilities when it comes to appeasing nutcases like you. Also, someone being on Bambi legs is indicative of absolutely nothing other than he lost that round and has zero bearing on the rest of the fight, and you failed to mention, he came back to almost even up the round, you forgot to mention.

    You invalidated everything you said about me, by saying Floyd Mayweather didn't school Canelo.

    @IntentionalButt What's your 2 cents on that matter?:sisi1
     
  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. Full Member

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    Didn't think they celebrated April Fool's Day in the land of bird looking creature/humanoids where you're from.
     
  3. Pugilist Specialist

    Pugilist Specialist Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao over Thurman is better by far dumbasses
     
  4. KO Artist

    KO Artist Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course Floyd schooled Canelo. Schooled him pretty good. Hell, by the mid rounds at one point I remember Clenelo just stopped, looked completely confused and he had no idea what else to try. Never seen him do that before or since.
     
  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. Full Member

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    Because he was still green. Duh. And he also probably paused because he was drained and had to take a momentary breather.
     
  6. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    The win over Canelo is greater.
     
  7. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    Most fighters looked green against Floyd. Marquez got schooled too, he's too green?
     
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  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. Full Member

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    No, but he went up 2 weight classes, looked fat and slow, and Floyd didn't bother with the catch-weight.

    Don't play dumb and act like none of this mattered.
     
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  9. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both great wins TBF.
    But

    Non roided, flat footed drainello that got beaten by Mayweather would of gotten ktfo by PAC.
     
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  10. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    Even Canelo looked slow against Floyd lol, Marquez didn't need to cut weight and didn't need to hydrate that much against Floyd.
    He's been weighing 140+ since the first Pacquiao fights.(come fight night)

    And a heavier version of that Marquez knocked pacquiao into the shadow world.

    You know what's dumb? Calling a champ with Multiple belts green.
     
  11. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Floyd's win over Canelo and I don't really think it's close. That win gave Floyd fighter of the decade and it's historically a better win as well as most talked about. Even if you're not a boxing fan you know that Floyd was the first one to beat Canelo, it's historically a great win.

    Pac's win over Thurman is extremely impressive, but I've never really rated Thurman to begin win and I scored his fight with Garcia a draw and also looked like buttcheek against a shot Lopez more than a year after. He fought the fight of his life against Garcia, suffered some minor injuries which caused him to become inactive for a year and a half, and basically rode off that win of being a unified champ.
     
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  12. KO Artist

    KO Artist Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right, so we agreed he schooled him
    I disagree he was green. Maybe not reached the peak of his powers, but he was the rising star, the guy that was supposed to take over after FMJ.
    And no, it wasn’t a breather. I recall him backed up and just wondering what the hell to do. Think it was round 8 or thereabouts.
     
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  13. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. Full Member

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    Marquez went up 2 weight classes, looked fat and slow, and Floyd didn't bother with the catch-weight. There was a catch-weight in place and it wasn't honored. Get it?

    The Marquez in III and IV was chemically-enhanced and came in ripped to shreds and hulked out. They weren't even the same versions.

    Devin Haney has a green belt. Belts don't mean squat sometimes.

    You're dumb and you can't help it, but try at least.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that's what happens when you're drained. He didn't have his normal stamina because he had to kill himself to make the catchweight. So if he stopped at times in the mid rounds that's a result of the catchweight. Did you see him at the weigh-in. He looked like a corpse. Now granted he rehydrated and looked OK on fight night but you don't get that stamina back. The process of him cutting those 2 extra pounds depletes his stamina. So he had less of a gas tank vs Mayweather as a result. Which was obviously Floyd's whole strategy which was to deplete Canelo's gas tank and stamina through the catchweight.

    I'm not sure about the whole "looking completely confused and had no idea what else to try". I think you can say the same about Mayweather. He had never fought anyone like Canelo before and Mayweather was very jittery early on. I thought Canelo had a very smart gameplan early on vs Mayweather which was to be patient and make Mayweather lead and try to counter him which Mayweather isn't used to doing. That's why the first half of the match was so close because at times Canelo would get Floyd out of his comfort zone and he did find some openings like that clean hook at the end of the 2nd round, or the 2nd half of the 4th round where he was making Floyd look like a novice. But yes as the rounds went on Canelo did have some stamina issues and he really had to pick and choose his spots. But really he does that in almost all of his matches, outside of the GGG rematch where he became the aggressor, as we know in most of his matches he takes a similar approach that he did vs Mayweather.
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hahaha that's very funny. Calling me a nutcase is another example of you being unprofessional. I expect Mods and staff members generally to conduct themselves more professionally than the average poster. But you don't have to care about what I expect, I wasn't the one who brought up this point, I was merely agreeing with him. I mean lets be honest, MOST mods or staff members wouldn't call posters "nutcases" or make outlandish claims like you have. But that's ok CST that's just your style. You're a mod but also are just a regular guy who makes jokes and stuff. All I'm saying is that it's rare to see a mod taking shots at posters and making outlandish claims about things that didn't happen in boxing matches.

    And just to be clear, you're entitled to your opinion on how you score matches. In some cases I think you are a good fair scorer but in other cases you appear to be a fanboy scorer. You could say the same thing about me and that's OK, but again you're a mod I'm not. And I'll use the example of Billy Joe Sounders last match where everyone and their mother had it close but you had it a Sounders blowout. Again, that screams fanboy scorer. Not saying you are are a fanboy scorer but your scoring is often very far from the average. But again, that's OK as sometimes my scores are far from the norm as well so we have that in common, but again I'm just a regular poster you're a mod. And frankly when I do have a score that differs from most, I try to go into detail and explain why I scored it how I did, so others understand. They can still disagree but I don't think anyone would accuse me of not explaining why I scored something.

    What I find frustrating is when someone has an outlandish score and then acts like that's the only way one can possibly score it. I always make it clear that boxing is subjective and one person can score it differently from someone else and that's OK. Like when you scored SRL Hagler 118-110 you seemed offended that I compared you to Adalaide Byrd but it was an apt comparison. But I never want you to change CST to appease me or anyone. You can score every BJS match 120-108 if you want even if he fights Canelo and Canelo schools him but then you argue BJS won every round or it was rigged judging then we fight about it and argue who's right. That's boxing, but again it's rare for a mod to be on one end of these kind of debates. You are a mod but also definitely a fan / regular guy with often head-scratching scores which makes you unique.