Pacquiao-Thurman or Mayweather-Canelo: What Is The Greater Win???

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Pacquiao-Thurman or Mayweather-Canelo: What Is The Greater Win???

  1. Pacquiao's Win Over Thurman

  2. Mayweather's Win Over Canelo

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Voted Pac-Thurman. I gave Canelo almost no chance of beating Mayweather (especially at 152...), and I was kind of shocked to see Pac dominate a fighter as good/prime as Thurman (albeit inactive hippie Thurman).

    Pac retaining his speed and reflexes at 40 is pretty incredible. His style should not have lasted this long. He's something else, roids or not.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @Slyk That's how I feel about it. While Canelo is a bigger win on paper, Manny beating a seasoned undefeated Thurman at 40 years of age was more unexpected and jaw dropping than Floyd eeking out a decision over a green, drained, pre-prime Canelo who still gave Mayweather his toughest fight in years. And lets not forget Pacquiao knocked down Thurman while Floyd never knocked down Canelo.
     
  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with all that except Mayweather eeking out a decision. I thought he dominated the fight - Canelo looked befuddled and tired.

    That said, people need to go back in time a few years and recall that Thurman was heralded as the #1 WW before both Spence and Crawford as he was the first to get in there with bigger names. He's gone on his yoga journeys and seems to have fallen out of love with boxing, but he's still not too far behind Spence/Crawford, if at all. I thought he had a cleaner win against a fresher Porter.
     
  4. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both were great wins.

    Mayweather made Canelo quit in that ring. He had that dog whipped into submission. Clenelo never once pushed to win the fight or make a stand to change the course of what was happening. I've never seen a Mexican fighter with less heart or will to win than Canelo on that night. It was shocking.

    really laughable that people try to say he was too green at 23yrs old. 23yrs is a massive advantage over 36yrs old no matter how you wanna cut it.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather made Canelo quit in the ring? I must have missed when that happened.

    He had that dog whipped into submission? Yikes. Obviously you're trolling here with comments like this.

    Mayweather was so befuddled early on vs Canelo that he proceeded to use roughhouse tactics vs Canelo like getting Canelo into a headlock and cranking Canelo's neck in the 4th round. We've never seen Mayweather resort to such desperate tactics in a match. Canelo took Mayweather to his absolute limit and if you can't see that you need to have your vision checked. Need I remind you that Canelo gave Floyd a lesson in fighting off the ropes in the 10th round then he landed a 12-punch combination on Floyd. No one's ever done that to Floyd.

    The idea that Floyd made Canelo quit in the ring is downright laughable considering that Floyd was getting booed in the 12th round for stalling. If anyone was running away and scared to engage at the end it was Floyd. So DonnyMo I don't know what kind of a stunt you're trying to pull here but obviously you have no clue what you're talking about.
     
  6. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thurman went life and death with Joseito Lopez before the Pacquiao fight.
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd over canelo but Pacquiaos win over Thurman is a great achievement

    I rate canelo above Thurman overall and find canelos form better than Thurman who had a layoff and a rough fight with lopez...not saying that to down play the win I just think it makes a difference in comparing wins
     
  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. Full Member

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    That's an idiotic statement. Thurman won 10-11 rounds while shaking out the rest and got caught in one round.
     
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree that someone claiming that Thurman went "life and death" with Lopez is a bit much. Thurman was pretty much in full control for most of the match, was putting rounds in the bank, then got caught out of nowhere in a round and got into a little bit of trouble. It was surprising, it was dramatic and that did give Lopez some momentum to make it competitive for a couple of rounds. But that's far from Thurman going "life and death" with him. People exaggerating on here is nothing new though haha.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C F 12 Stay Dangerous Full Member

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    Exactly over 90% of the fighters pbf fought looked green while getting absolutely schooled by him.:deal: It's nothing new when it came to pbf. What it shows you is how great he was.
     
  11. Pimp C

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    Exactly it's arguably the best win of the last decade. Pac doesn't have a win as good as canelo.
     
  12. shadow111

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    It also shows how great Canelo was that even while drained and green at 23 years old still gave Mayweather 12 tough rounds and walked away with a hard fought MD loss. However many rounds that you though Canelo won, he definitely gave Floyd more tough, close chess-match rounds than anyone had given Floyd in previous years.
     
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    Exactly! Canelo fought pbf at the right time not the other way around.
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He fought him at the only time he could fight him at. He was outgrowing 154, Floyd had just moved up to 154 to fight Cotto, and was about to return to 147. If it didn't happen when it did, it would have never happened.
     
  15. kirk

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    I rate Pac Thurman very highly in terms of legacy, entertainment, and all around badassness from The Legend Himself.

    But... I have to rate the Canelo win higher.

    Mayweather cruised through that fight against a fighter Id take to knock Thurman out (yes even the version that Floyd fought against the version Pac fought)

    The things that make this close is Pacs age during the win, he put a beating on Thurman whereas Mayweather outpointed, and Mayweather Canelo being at a catchweight.

    Thats not enough for me though. The level of opponent and the ease of the win tips it to Mayweather.

    Just imo.
     
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