Pacquiao Vs. Cotto??????

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  1. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree:good the placement of his elbows didnt help him at all
     
  2. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was of those big body shots and his broken nose that he lost his stamina
     
  3. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have a good point....Cotto threw a left, right to the body which were on the belt line and the ref admonished him for it....after that it appeared
    that Cotto selectively threw a few lefts to the body to no avail...
     
  4. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Cotto said he did not know why he lost his stamina but if that's the case might be the warrior in him to not admit it. Margarito's shots were not that hard in close...IMO...unless he used bricks..Margarito needs distance to get good power..but Cotto just kept moving away which only gave Margarito the room and momentum to do it.
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    I stand corrected. Just rewatched it and Cotto really ****ed CQ up!
     
  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Cotto did not fight smart against Margarito but I think having all the pressure put on him for the first time might have effected his ability to adapt because it was messing him up mentally. Of course Cotto says he will never clinch.
     
  7. sweetscientist

    sweetscientist Yori Boy Die Hard Full Member

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    i definitely agree with that. cotto, in general, waits until his feet are planted and winds his shoulder a bit before throwing. pacquiao used to do that when throwing hard lefts, but freddie roach has got him throwing those straight lefts right off the balls of his feet when the natural back-and-forth of the shoulders is behind the motion, so he doesn't have to force it and tense up beforeahnd. pac is, now, stopping his torso from falling forward with the punch as to get it back by its own natural sphere of motion. though cotto has been hurt on several occasions...i wonder if pacquiao has the juice to stun him at 147. despite the knockout loss to margo, cotto has seemed less likely to get stunned at 147 since he no longer has to dehydrate as much to make weight. what do you think jeff m?
     
  8. Capitan

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    Don't stress dude....I was wrong once before...I can't remember when, but I think I was....
     
  9. PH|LLA

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    that was just a little detail on a point that is still correct. It wasn't the pinpoint issue, if it were i would have paid more attention to it. Still credit to boricua for pointing it out. However i think even he agrees with the rest of the post

    Stylewise Pacquiao is a problem for Cotto and also he is a better fighter. But the size might be too big a hurdle to overcome. Its a competitive fight though
     
  10. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto has stamina issues imo and PAC fights every second of every round. This fight would have to end early Cotto needs to cut off the ring and bang Pac at close range. Pac likes to hit and retreat basically jumps around the ring. Cotto needs perfect timing and nt waste any unnecesary energy. Cotto has too much power in both hands and so does pac but what gets me is that both have same arm reach....My money is on Cotto TKO 8 but not and easy fight.
     
  11. Capitan

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    The best kept secret is that Cotto started training like an animal about 3-4 months before the fight and he was overtrained.....say what you want but that is a fact that we were concerned about before the fight.
     
  12. sweetscientist

    sweetscientist Yori Boy Die Hard Full Member

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    you're right...i forgot about how he started going to the beltline to get around the defense and was warned a couple of times. good call.
     
  13. huggerfree

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    We are agreeing in lot of stuff today, i think the margarito(loaded/unloaded) fight was an iron chinned stalker and cotto tried to box backpedalling the whole fight which is harder i suppose than being the stalker most of his fight. In pac fight with cotto i dont think he would have any stamina problem though.
     
  14. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont think Pac would last 12 full rounds
     
  15. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    That's exactly right. I felt the loss to Margarito had as much to do with stamina as it did Margarito's shots. Moving up to 147 was much better for him. I have noticed what you're saying how Cotto plants his feet. It was extremely obvious in the Margarito fight. I don't know if Pac has enough steam on his punches or not. If Cotto would start to tire than I could see Pac maybe stunning him but overall I have doubt Pac could stun Cotto. Maybe he would have enough power to at least make Miguel think about running right in and walking him down. Pac's power comes a lot from his legs and how he gets full force with his body behind them. Like you said Roach has improved a lot on how Pac does not fall forward so he does not leave himself so open. One thing is that if he does do that he has the athlectic ability and improved foot-work to get himself in back in position quicker than he used to.