Pacquiao vs Margarito catchweight will be at 151lb according to Arum

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  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I didn't realise that it was just those two numbers that bothered you so much.

    Chzavez v Whittaker was at 145lbs though fwiw for the WBC welterweight title.

    Terry Norris v Meldrick Taylor was contracted at 150.5lbs for the WBC light middleweight title. Let me guess, you don't mind that one because it wasn't 151lbs....
     
  2. El Intocable

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    You can put me on ignore for all i care you ******ed piece of ****.heres another one Griffith-Moyer was at 151 catchweight.
     
  3. Zak2

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    In your opinion, is Punkquiao the best p4p "catchweight" fighter in history?
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch Look...it really is this simple.... JrMW is from 148 to 154. Got that? If you weigh in ANYWHERE from 148 to 154 you are a JrMW. Did I really have to explain that? Really? But there...THAT is the range. WW is from 141 to 147.

    And now you think some already crooked sanctioning bodyu should say, "You MUST weigh in at the limit for a title fight!!" That's what you want?
     
  5. 555east

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    stop putting words in my mouth ... I never said fighters have to weigh the maximum allowed weight.

    my issue is this: by making a Junior Middleweight title fight at a catchweight of 150

    that goes against the original definition of Junior Middleweight ... which is a division where fighters are allowed to weigh up to 154

    you said yourself anywhere from 148 to 154 = Junior Middle .... then how come Margarito is restricted from weighting in at 153

    and 153 is a perfectly valid weight for Junior Middle is it not?

    ** I know the contract has a special stipulation for a certain weight limit (in this case 150) but that is where the issue comes with these catchweight fights by making a max weight which is below the original specified max for Junior Middle

    Don't change the argument, because im not saying Pacquiao and Margarito both have to weigh in at 154 for it to be a title fight

    .. just that Margarito shouldn't be limited to 150 pounds. And if it the weight really isn't a big deal, and you don't believe it'll have a large effect on Marg then why make the fight at 150?

    when weighing 151, 152, 153 and 154 would all be perfectly valid as well. If Manny really can beat Margarito without a catchweight then he should just do it.

    and no Welterweight isn't from 141, it's lower ... even a half a pound over 140 would be above the max weight allowed under Junior Welter.
     
  6. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought this was his third catchweight fight.

    De la Hoya, Cotto and now Margarito.
     
  7. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Solid post. :good
     
  8. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DLH was not technically a catchweight as it was at the WW limit of 147.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

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    OK...FINE, if it makes you happy, if you weigh 140.01, then you are a WW as long as you don't exceed 147.

    And I am not changing any argument. I am saying if you weight 148 to 154, you are a JrMW. THAT is my argument. ANd that is where the weight falls.

    OIf both sides agree, then I really don't see the problem.
     
  10. ecdrm15

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    :rofl:nut:patsch:-:)twisted:
     
  11. jerryrard

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    DLH wasn't a catchweight fight.
     
  13. Concrete

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    I'm telling you guys is not about the catch weight its about the fight night weight.

    If Margo weighs 154-155 on fight night then that would be 3 fighters DLH, Cotto, Margo that all of a sudden decided to weigh light vs Pac on fight night, thats very fishy and adds steam to the re hydration clause rumblings. It would make be believe that the purpose of the 2-3 pd catch weight is strictly so they can make agreements that they can only re hydrate a certain amount of weight come fight night. That would be the true purpose. Come in at 151 but you can only re hydrate to 155.

    Margo weighed 160 vs Mosley after weighing in at 145.8. So if he were to weigh light the question would be why. He knows he can't be faster then Pac so his best bet would be to come in the ring a heavy looking to absorb punches as well as have weight on his own punches.
     
  14. Cobbler

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    So, what are you saying? Fighters are allowed to choose to weigh less than the limit, but they are not allowed to put that choice in writing? Can they make verbal agreements? How would you regulate this?
     
  15. Cobbler

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    DLH didn't 'decide to weigh light on fight night', that was how much he weighed at that time and had been for several weeks. You can't 'rehydrate' to a weight that you didn't weigh in the first place.

    Still waiting for a cite from you for a rehydration clause in the Cotto contract iirc. What are you saying Cotto's fight night weight was? Can we have a link for that too?