Pacquiao vs Margarito in discussion for October

I guess, I just see a difference.

With such top fighters, I just dont see that much edge in using something like EPO or the Clear, while if someone had hard pads in their wraps.

It's not like were taking someone average then having them workout and be pumped with PEDs.




In a sense, I guess it's a degree of cheating.

 

Yes they could make a similar point to Marg but Marg has a much more solid resume to use as defence where it was not proven that he cheated, alot would also depend on future opponents and their success or defeats their, like if Marg goes on to lose his next five fights, i will come on ans say, ok you were right, but at this point in time i think Marg is a bigger win than Berto, in terms of resume.

 

That's true enough I suppose. I personally do believe that Shane didn't know. He passed a polygraph to prove he was unaware, didn't he?

Still, if we forgive one guy for going into a big fight with an unfair advantage (which Shane did whether he knew or not), then we should probably do the same for another guy.

I dislike Margarito for what he did, but I'm "do the crime, do the time" sort of guy. Margo got banned, now he's back with no plaster of paris to help him, I say let him get on with it. If he really has been relying on the handwraps all these years, then he'll get his ass royally kicked - and who wouldn't want to see that???

 

Butthurt are you? Doesn't take much to set the *******'s off these days :rofl:rofl

 

Doesn't take much to outbox Fraudley these days either... Michael ****ing Sprott did it for 11 1/2 rounds!!!! :smoke

 

He did. That resume goes out the window with the cheating. Whether he did it or not, all fights are questioned.

I just disagree, if Pac fought either fighter right now. (Let's assume berto is healthy) He would gain much more by beating Berto than Margo.

Margarito's last fight was Mosley nearly a year and half ago, and got absolutely beat the **** down.

Berto, just came off a victory over Quintana.

Margarito would need to get his resume rolling again before he could be considered better for Pac.

 

I believe Margo used the wraps vs Cotto and Cintron. Those results should be wiped off their resumes IMO.

 

His lawyer I think stated he did under their own guidelines, it wasn't administered by the FBI. And no one knows what questions were being asked.

I believe Mosley knew, and he somehow still saved face with the public.

He pointed out the E on his calendar were the days for EPO injections.

I disagree, Mosley would of probably got a 6 month to year suspension and been reactivated by any commission. He somewhat suffered a suspension anyway by going on to lose to Winky Wright twice, setting him back for a bit.

Margarito did his time and his time also includes being able to get a license. It was never stipulated that he would get it back, if ever, in the states. That's what he lives with.

I can understand the feeling for that, but wraps to me, are just a whole other level.

At best I can say is let's see how he does in this next fight and go from there. I don't think a commission is going to give him a license though.

 

Yea but you cant change the emotional factor that was put into the defeats.

 

It would not be by much but untill Berto gets himself more established at elite level then i think a win over Marg would do more for Pacs legacy when people look back in thirty years they would not remember Berto based on his resume, some will remmember Marg on his.

 

Popkins you really don't know what you are talking about. Mosley was never caught. Mosley admitted that he used products from BALCO without knowing what they were.

Interesting thing is that Mosley wasn't caught by the EXACT same tests that Team Pac and you *******s are advocating for... Hypocrisy anyone? :think

 

margarito is going to be remember for that guy who got caught with plaster in his wraps and then went on to get his ass beat the **** down by Mosley without them.

Margarito's had too much time off to even be considered a good win for anyone right now. Plus, what if he's been fighting with those pads his whole career?

Then what is really to be gained by Pac?

Berto beat an ex champion in great fashion. He's just below the elite level.

 

This makes no ****ing sense at all. Insane! How is this going to help Pac's legacy? How is it going to help his already tainted reputation? It doesn't. It makes it worse because he's doing business with a known cheater.

 

Mosley was caught dumbass. There isn't any way around that fact. He was caught. Did he know what he had taken? Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. He is back now though, and I'm glad he is. I don't believe he knowingly cheated. But my view on the Margarito thing doesn't change either way: he has done the time, and if he was relying on handwraps all this time then why let him stroll off into the sunset? Get him back in the ring and let his fellow professionals give him some of the treatment he dished out to Cotto and Cintron.

 

Well Popkins, a video was just leaked and it shows Mosley admitting to knowing it was EPO.

Lmao..