Pacquiao vs Marquez 5

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  1. Pac

    33 vote(s)
    64.7%
  2. Marquez

    18 vote(s)
    35.3%
  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Olu thinks JMM is greater than Pac :lol:
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The assertion that you believe Pacquiao was giving his best performance of the 4 fights in that 4th fight goes to show just how good Marquez really was in the first 3.
    In case some of you have forgotten, Marquez was ahead on the scorecards at the time of Pacquiao getting put to sleep, what does that say that some of you thought that fight was Pacquiao's best performance?

    ........and I'll note that yes, Pacquiao was consistently better at hitting Marquez with cleaner punches in that 4th fight than he did on the previous three fights, but analyzing as to why that was you have to factor in that Marquez as depicted in HBO's 24/7 leading up to that last fight, their footage showed Marquez emphasizing being explosive against Pacqiuao. In training for that 4th fight vs Pacquiao, Marquez had knocked out a sparring partner with the same counter "EXPLOSIVE" right hand that put Pacquiao to sleep.
    For those that dont know the intracacies of boxing which is the case with alot of Ptards, if you plan and train to be explosive in a boxing match, you best believe that doing so makes you more vulnerable to eat shots yourself.
    In other words, Marquez allready knew going in he'd have to sacrifice some of his defense and combination punching in order that the fight not go to the scorecards again to get predictably screwed over once again.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    In no particular order the 34 are as follows:

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Sugar Ray Robinson
    3. Charley Burley
    4. Joe Louis
    5. Jack Johnson
    6. Jack Dempsey
    7. Larry Holmes
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Archie Moore
    10. Michael Spinks
    11. Ezzard Charles
    12. Roy Jones
    13. James Toney
    14. Lennox Lewis
    15. Marvin Hagler
    16. Thomas Hearns
    17. Sugar Ray Leonard
    18. Wilfredo Benitez
    19. Roberto Duran
    20. Floyd Mayweather
    21. Juan Manuel Marquez
    22. Azumah Nelson my beloved Uncle
    23. Dick Tiger of blessed memory
    24. Julio Cesar Chavez Snr
    25. Felix “El Tito” Trinidad
    26. Salvador Sanchez
    27. Wilfredo Gomez
    28. Ike Williams
    29. Benny Leonard
    30. Sandy Saddler
    31. Willie Pep
    32. Beau Jack
    33. Mike McCallum
    34. Mike Tyson


    I am sure I might have missed a couple of people but all the above greater than Pacquiao. No. 35 in this company is nothing to sneeze at or be ashamed of
     
  4. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Terrible list from a terrible poster.
     
  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Marquez flat out lied to the media and said that he was working with a team of doctors to put on weight correctly to fight Pac, a guy who is actually a little smaller than him at any weight they've fought at.

    The only reason we knew Marquez was working with Memo was because Conte identified and outted him. Marquez clearly knew about Memo's expertise in PEDs and engaged him for his services.

    Marquez was so doped up that his HGH 8 pack was bursting through in a photo shoot where he wasn't even flexing.

    And then he refused VADA testing for the Bradley fight and showed up to the Alvarado fight with massive amounts of acne on his chest and back. Oh, and he literally knocked Alvarado halfway across the ring.

    :lol:
     
  6. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Will have to disagree with that list. I just can't see Pac being ranked as low as 35. He's considered as arguably the greatest Asian fighter ever and I think he's done enough to be considered Top 20 or higher at least. The things he was able to do and the fighters he's beaten is remarkable. He has a strong case to be ranked higher than Azumah Nelson, JMM, Tyson, McCallum, Spinks, Trinidad, Toney, Benitez, Tiger, Gomez, RJJ.

    But it's all subjective though.
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Pac decked JMM more times than Pac got hit
     
  8. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    I had a heart attack when I saw Toney, Marquez and Tyson.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I dont suppose you live in a fantasy world do you rofl not much lol
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I have told you were I rank him. His achievements are great no doubt but his 8 losses and the manner of them 3 knockout losses show his true standing.
     
  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Maybe but he got up and gave him hell. Marquez put him to sleep categorically and it was all she wrote.
     
  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Marquez is Pacquiao’s Daddy. Toney and Tyson’s fundamentals are better than Pacquiao.
     
  13. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    This @Olu G. Rotimi is a bum he stalks Mayweather all over social media asking him for money hes a bonafide scrub.
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's to raise money for his Uncle Azumah's Foundation.
     
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  15. Wildcat

    Wildcat Ted Grant banned Full Member

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    Take your medicines.