[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVStmLCoH30[/ame] vs [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G84hIFoalnk[/ame] and [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Qkab5817U[/ame] and [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfbbUhIH1a4[/ame] Don't tell me Pac still looked the same compare to when he fought marquez. Pac is more balanced and now can throw that right hook more effectively.
Pac looks good or better because of the type of opponant in front of him. These guys cover up when he throws combinations. marquez throws counters in between and while manny is unloading. This makes a huge difference.
You also forget to put in the fact that Pac had to drain himself when he fought marquez. Pac's walking weight was 155 when he fought marquez at 130. Pac weighed in at 128 in one of those fights. This makes a huge difference.
Amazing. Anyone who feels Pac MIGHT have trouble with an opponent, he ALWAYS had problems with, is considered a "*****". :huh Is this conversation even about Floyd? ******* logic indeed. :-( And...I said Pac improved marginally, not DRASTICALLY...as some of you Pac nuthuggers would have us believe. :bart
I see you didn't speak to Pac's level of opposition, in comparison to JMM skill-wise. What you did was deflect and change the subject to whom JMM has faced.
Is this conversation about Floyd? Says who? You're always pushing the same argument over and over again. Now Pacman improved marginally for your convenience? Get off JMM balls.
You're talking "*****" this and "*****" that. That's the derogatory term you apply to fans of Floyd's talent, right? What does this conversation have to do with Floyd? I'm pushing the argument that fits the topic. This is about JMM vs Pac. If you don't like it and can't present a suitable counter argument...don't reply to it. I concede that if Pac has improved at all, it is only marginally. How is stating that a "convenience" to me? He is, basically, the same type of fighter, skill-wise he was in 2008, with marginal improvements to skills he had fully acquired by 2008. The change is not DRASTIC. The drastic difference you are seeing is his level of opposition. Pac was not a one handed fighter then. Freddie Roach and many people at that time, feel he was a complete fighter, by then. But, knowing this...YOU will still claim he was one-handed. :roll: Wake up. I'm not only one that thinks JMM would give Pac problems. Why don't go on over to b0xingtalk and similar websites and you will see many feel this way. Freddie Roach, himself, is quoted as saying Marquez is tough comp. This is after the ever so pivotal ODLH fight, where a "new improved" Manny Pacquiao was born.
at 140, jmm may still give pac problems style-wise. but i see pac winning nonetheless. see pac-barrera 2 or pac-solis and compare that to pac-hatton. against barrera, he relied too much on the left hand and was swinging wildly, had poor balance and defense. at 147, jmm gets koed for sure.