Pacquiao vs. Marquez: The correct scoreline

2-1-1 Pacquiao

1st fight: 113-112 Pacquiao
2nd fight: 114-113 Pacquiao
3rd fight: 114-114 Draw

 

Same.

 

This is it for me, the knockdown settled the matter in the second one. Also I'm ok with the first one being a draw too.

@Dynamicpuncher

 

Juan Manuel Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 1

1 Pacquiao 10-6 3 knockdowns
2 Pacquiao
3 Marquez
4 Marquez
5 Marquez
6 Marquez
7 Pacquiao
8 Marquez
9 Marquez
10 Pacquiao
11 Marquez
12 Marquez

113-112 Marquez

I've always felt Marquez deserved to win this fight and my opinion hasn't changed, the first 6 rounds are pretty easy to score IMO. After that it gets a bit tougher for me the closest round in the fight was the 9th round, but for the most part i felt like Marquez was able to fight his kind of fight. It took Marquez 2 rounds to adjust to Pacquiao's speed, but once he did he had Pacquiao pretty measured apart from a couple of rounds. I also forgot how many good body punches Marquez landed in the fight aswell.

Overall for me Marquez won this fight on clean punching, ring generalship, nullifying Pacquiao's aggression for a large portion of the fight.

Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez 2

1 Marquez
2 Marquez
3 Pacquiao 10-8 knockdown
4 Pacquiao
5 Marquez
6 Marquez
7 Pacquiao
8 Marquez
9 Pacquiao
10 Pacquiao
11 Marquez
12 Marquez

114-113 Marquez

How did Harold Lederman have Pacquiao winning the 12th round ? his scorecard was reasonable up until that point, i also felt his scoring was way off in the 1st fight aswell.

Overall i felt like this fight was quite easy to score like the 1st meeting the 1st round was close but Marquez landed a few body shots and the big right hand was by far best punch of the round won the round for Marquez for me. Apart from that i didn't really see many other swing rounds one fighter would always clearly win a round even if it was competitive.

Pacquiao was definitely an improved fighter and his defence and right hand was noticeably better. But he still had the same issues he had in the 1st meeting, Marquez's straight hand was always bothering him. And Marquez's ring generalship and counter punching style still posed the same problems.

Overall again just like the 1st fight Marquez won for me based on ring generalship and clean effective punching great fight though.


Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez 3

1 Pacquiao
2 Marquez
3 Pacquiao
4 Pacquiao
5 Marquez
6 Pacquiao
7 Marquez
8 Marquez
9 Marquez
10 Marquez
11 Pacquiao
12 Pacquiao

114-114 Draw

For me this was Pacquiao's best performance vs Marquez in regards to his defence, Pacquiao fought a more tactical fight this time around and got hit far less. Pacquiao's footwork was also better here than it was in fights 1 and 2, as he kept his positioning alot better and wasn't off balance as much.

I felt like Marquez stepped it up after round 6 as Marquez had to lead a bit more in this fight to have success. He landed mostly all the telling blows for me in rounds 7-10 especially with the right hand. Lederman had Pacquiao winning most of the rounds after 7 rounds which i totally disagreed with.

But i felt like Marquez dropped the ball in the last 2 rounds when he cut Pacquiao and let his foot off the gas and fought too cautiously from that point on allowing Pacquiao to win the last 2 rounds to earn a draw on my card.

Overall the most boring fight of the trilogy in regards to drama but i still found it riveting to watch regardless and it was still a solid tactical fight. I think this fight had the most swing rounds out of all the fights they had IMO.

 

Pac in the 1st fight
Marquez 4th fight as we know

2/3 could have gone either way I think.

 

Am I the only one who scored the third for Pac? I never understood the robbery talks. Here's my RBR scorecard (from about 5 years ago ):

 

I thought the 2nd and 3rd were really close.

A lot of people even give Marquez the first which I disagree with as well.

 

I had it a draw though might need to rewatch here's my scorecard:

Juan Manual Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao 3

Round 1 10-9 Marquez

Round 2 10-9 Marquez

Round 3 10-9 Pacquiao

Round 4 10-9 Pacquiao

Round 5 10-9 Marquez

Round 6 10-9 Pacquiao

Round 7 10-9 Marquez

Round 8 10-9 Marquez

Round 9 10-9 Pacquiao

Round 10 10-9 Marquez

Round 11 10-9 Pacquiao

Round 12 10-9 Pacquiao

114-114 Draw

 

2-1-1 Marquez has always felt about right to me..