Pacquiao vs Napoles

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  1. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok sorry for another Pacquiao thread but I really feel that this is a great match up. Two ATG's, Napoles of course more proven at the weight but a smallish Welter who would not hold a significant weight advantage over Manny.

    Mantequilla is the consumate stylist and can both lead and counter punch brilliantly, would he be able to deal with Pacquiao's punch output, power and speed? I really do view this fight as something of a toss up, maybe i'm reading too much into Napoles' struggle with southpaw Billy Backus and his tendency to cut but I cant deny that was what got me really thinking about this fight.

    Anyway i'd like to hear your opinions. Poll coming up shortly :good
     
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  2. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    The Napoles lovers on here will not be happy...
     
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  3. Sweet Pea

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    The Napoles of the late 60's was a better fighter IMO, clearly. His tendancy to cut could cost him, certainly, but I'd expect him to get the better of the action, and a series if necessary. He has all the tools to neutralize Pacquiao's style.
     
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  4. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Napoles is a brilliant all round fighter.. would you expect Napoles to take the defensive role in a fight or stand and trade? I picked this match up because Napoles is in Pacquiao's size range. Guys like Rodriquez, Leonard, Gavilan are all too big to be viable opponents.

    Then again it's been said many times that an opponent is too big for manny pac :lol:
     
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  5. kidargentine

    kidargentine Member Full Member

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    Napoles by TKO in the 8th. Probably the best boxer I've ever seen, but I wouldn't go as far to say that it'll be an easy fight...
     
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  6. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    napoles by ud
     
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  7. teeto

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    Well a fighter who exerts a lot of pressure and imposes himself with strength potentially is a threat to Napoles. Napoles is just so good a boxer though, he was finding Monzon with shots from both hands early on, and Marquez' combos found the mark on Pacquiao repeatedly, which aren't as good as Napoles'. Napoles for me, Pacquiao has the ability to back him up but i just don't see it enough, Napoles would be able to outbox him.
     
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  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    As great as Pac is today, and is a favorite of mine...Jose Napoles would have been a bridge too far..Mantequilla was peerless at 147. Cuts were his only weakness, but I'll be damned if he didn't attain the heights of greatness without them being that much of a factor. Napoles would have stopped Pac before the 10th..outgunning him for a tko.
     
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  9. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    The cuts could definitely come into play in this one...but if they didnt I wouldnt hesitate to pick Napoles.
     
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  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    napoles's fair skil would play a big factor in this fight.

    What would he do with pac's speed given his cuts and blinded eyesight midway in the fight?
     
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  11. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** clicked wrong option. Pac KO
     
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  12. Sweet Pea

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    Pacquiao offers up more in the way of pure speed and aggression than he does in actual physical strength, which is a more useful tool for an aggressive swarmer against a guy like Napoles. Usually that would have to come from a larger fighter, (which Pacquiao is not) as Napoles was quite strong himself. I think stylistically, Napoles's timing, accuracy, and poise are a good foil for Pacquiao. The fact that he carries with him all of the physical tools and mental intangibles to back it up gives him a more than satisfactory case for getting the W, here. The only issue would be his tender skin, IMO.
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I would pick Pacquiao to stop Napoles at 140.
     
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  14. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Nah, Napoles would **** him.
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Only if Pacquiao was drunk.
     
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