Pacquiao vs. Vasquez/Marquez at 122

Harder to say now, because since that video, Vazquez has definitely toughened up and improved since being Pacquiao's chief sparmate (when he was at 122 AND 126). If I remember correctly, he was the chief sparmate for the first Barrera fight.

However, just like Manny isn't the same fighter he was at 122 (his chin, defense, and right hand have all improved by leaps and bounds) because of fights with quality opposition like Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Larios, etc., so have Vazquez's speed, ring generalship, and inside fighting combined with ring experience you can only get from fighting better opposition like Gonzalez, Marquez, Larios II and III, Choko Hernandez, etc.

But if we were to take this more raw version Pacquiao at his last fight at 122 (a one-punch demolition of Lucero) and Vazquez right now after being Marquez the second time, I would go with Pacquiao just because he was a harder puncher than RM was at this weight, with greater handspeed. If Vazquez were to get tagged, and he would, it would be hard for him to mount a counterattack against someone who at 122 didn't really fight on the inside, but came forward from distance.

That said, Pacquiao wasn't invincible at the weight either. He had problems with guys like Nedal Hussein who served him a KD and Agapito Sanchez, who hit him many, many times below the belt. But I think his reach, speed, and one punch KO power would be enough to beat Israel.

 

Anybody would have had problems with that too..

 

Who was dominating in that sparring session in your opinion?

 

Nobody was, although if Pac turned it up he would have a clear edge IMO.

But it this sparring session, the one that actualy exists, nobody is being dominated.

 

I think Pac was training here for the 1st EM fight, he's basically just moved out of 122 & just about 3 fights at 126. Even at Pac at the higher weight of 130, Pac still out speed a 122 Izzy. If it's Pac vs Izzy at 122, Pac would be much Faster than that.

 

First it was some mystery source that had Pac blowing him out of the gym, but not a source you would name. Interesting.

Then it was pointed out that we had the video. Show me where Vasquez is taking a beating. What segment of the video. I see Vasuez hanging in fine, and even joking at one segment by throwing knees to Pac.

So where is the beating? Or am I just to take your emotions your posting as an indicator you have no real arguement left?

 

Izzy is the last Mexican who's still carrying the Mexican Pride. Let's give Props to Izzy in acb's behalf:yep But in reality Izzy is no match with Pac.

 

Some of these Pac nuthuggers are ridiculous.

 

PacDbest I picked Pac to beat Izzy at 122lbs earlier in the thread.

The truth is that you have no real truthful intention of real debate, or analysis of fights involving Pac- and neither does Patsys.

This is why you don't have credibility on this forum.

 

Very much so. I should have learned a long time ago but I still find myself in these threads occasionaly.

 

Pac would beat both Vazquez and Marquez but these Pac fan boys just continuosly talk ****.

 

Yes he does have credibility.

He predicted the Donaire-Darchinyan fight correctly, didnt he?

(tongue firmly planted in cheek)

 

I almost forgot about that. :smoke

 

i don't see any **** in it. i can see pacquiao beating vasquez and rafa at 122 too. its the logical choice imo.