Pacquiao watched Juan Diaz this weekend, decides he wants Valero

I hope Manny avoids 135. He'd get stopped by Juan.

 

If he wants Valero, thats fine by me. I respect him for taking a dangerous opponent in Valero.

And like the OP said, Im not suprised he watched Diaz and turned the other way.

 

valero has a much better chance then diaz. u guys just say this cuz u hate pac

 

Oh really?

Diaz is a proven champ, with the most endurance in boxing, in his prime, and undefeated.

On top of that, he is in the weight class above Pac, and perhaps we understand the significance of that.

Before you make stupid posts, think please. :good

 

Yes, he is. He has wicked power but has not faced competition like Pac before. I think the fight will be a war, with Pac coming out on top. I think it will be somewhat like Kelley vs Hamed.

 

I agree in that Valero is a very real threat to anyone certainly not a soft option...i think the uncertain realm here is 135 not so much Diaz himself

 

Heh, they are both dangerous period. One punches hard and the other too often. I guarentee that Pac has a better chance against Valero than he does against Juan. Juan would 2nd Base him to death as Bob Papa would say and would stop him in 7 or 8 rounds. Valero has a punchers chance sure...but Pac does have a good chin. Getting stopped by accumulation differs from 1 or 2 clean shots to the chin. One of them completely takes ALL of your will away (accumulation) and the other actually makes you want to fight on and continue (2 to the chin and KDed).

 

He is not talking about the quality of the fighter, he is talking about the weight discrepency.

Tito looked great until he ran into Bernard at 160lbs. You can climb and climb in the weight classes and be succesfull, but one day you climb to high and its disastrous.

Pac has gone through many weight classes, 135 against Diaz is too high.

 

Watching both Valero & Diaz, I would b much more nervous in a fight with Valero.

I believe the 2 ways to beat Pac would be to either outbox him or to KO him. Outboxing him will be a big problem cos aswell as the skill, you would need a great chin to take Pacs punches for 12 rounds and the legs to last that long. KO'ing him maybe an easier task, if valero lands a bomb, I can see Pac going down..

This is sort of like a Barkley vs Hearns fight. Both men have the power to KO each other even though the other on paper should be much better. Not saying Pac's chin is shaky but it aint granite...

Diaz cant KO Pac or outbox him. He will take on Pac in a war of attrition...and I dont think anybody can beat Pac at that game 135lb and under. Pac has more power and speed. To put Pac's power into perspective, he KO Erik Morales in 3 rounds, a LW David Diaz couldnt do it in 12 so yeh, I definetly believe Pac has the power to carry to 135lb.

He would stop Juan Diaz.

 

No.

There is a third way to beat Pac which you did not mention.

He can not fight moving backward. Diaz would use his endurance, preasure, size advantage, and perpetual punching to move Pac backward. I remember Pac moving backwards against Morales (first fight) and it was clear he did not understand how to fight in that direction. In reality he has never had to. This reality will change against fighters in higher weight classes, especially against Diaz.

 

I think Diaz's stamina is actually the best in the game, with Pacquiao being a very close second. Diaz is not a very powerful puncher, but he "throws punches in bunches" and never stops, his chin is also better than Pacquiao's. Against anyone 130 and under, I believe Pac has to be considered the favorite (though the winner of Guzman-Soto might not be that big of an underdog). At 135 it's a different game, I don't believe Pac punches harder than JUlio Diaz or Acelino Freitas, 2 guys that were unable to really hurt Juan Diaz. If Pac can't hurt Diaz, he would be in alot of trouble in this fight.

 

Freitas hits like a mule.

No way Pac hits harder than Freitas (especially in his prime).

The advantage Pac has over Freitas are his straighter punches.

 

Im a pac fan n all but you are smoking some good ****!!!:rasta :rasta :rasta

 

If you watch his fights after that you will see his footwork has improved alot and his counter right hook is pretty deadly stunning most of his opponents who rush him. On top of that, everytime Pac was rushed back...he ALWAYS came back and with a vengeance. Juan Diaz is exactly the kind of fighter who will bring out the best in Pac and you just dont want that.

I can understand where youre coming from with your analysis but Im just seeing from a different angle and im as sure of my own analysis in my head of how the fight will go as you are of yours.