Pacquiao watched Juan Diaz this weekend, decides he wants Valero

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Good counter points. :good
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Punch for punch maybe id say their the same. Pac with a clean straight lunging left is as hard a shot p4p as any punch out there. The difference is, every punch Pac throws is a power punch whereas Babybull's re arm punches, Pac also throws alot more than Freitas and has alot more stamina and faster.
     
  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    On the other hand, Pac is a rythmic fighter, and this rythyn can be broken with the volume punching of Diaz. Diaz can use this break in rythym to accumulate combinations on Pac and wear him down.
     
  4. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Greatâ„¢ Full Member

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    very well said mate :good
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac is a rythmic fighter when hes boxing. He didnt look very rythmic to me when he lost it against Solis and KD him in the same round. I think thats exactly the kind of Pac that will show up for Diaz once he get hurt, a guy out to hurt his opponent. It will be a hell of a war and though Diaz has the size and chin advantage, Pac has the speed, reach and power advantage. When the bull gets hit with 5 hellacious shots from pacman it will make him think twice and knock away some confidence. He hasnt faced anyone yet so far that thinks like him in the ring with the tools to carry it out. Julio tried it but he didnt have that power or speed to pull it off.
     
  6. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Greatâ„¢ Full Member

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    Team Pacquiao already solved this problem, didn't you watched Pac-Morales 2? What happened to Erik when they meet in their rematch? Pac is using the ring well and doesn't let Morales bully him in the corner, that's why Roach improved Pac's right hand, so that he wouldn't relying too much on his left hand.
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Please dont compare that Morales to this Diaz.
     
  8. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah . . . there's so much unsettled business at 130 . . . why go up and fight the bigger boys for the same amount of money?

    Got to clearly establish his name at 130 first. :yep
     
  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    :yep :good

    I'm a Pacfan bruh . . . but it's not hard for me to see and understand that Diaz can outwork, outpower and force Pac to fight backwards.
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Yep.

    You cant compare the preasure of a 130lb, past it Morales to the 135lb, in his prime, endurance filled Diaz.

    The right hook of Manny has improved, I dont argue that. But we are talking about different circumstances here.
     
  11. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Greatâ„¢ Full Member

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    I'm not comparing Morales to Juan Diaz, what i'm saying Pac has already solved that glitch on his defense he already know now how to fight moving backward, Pac improved a lot since his loss to Morales. He can box now, he can counter punch, of course he can brawl, a lot has been added to his arsenal. If Pac vs Diaz pushes through it will be a war, either fighter can
    win it, my take is 50/50, I will not say Pav by K.O or Diaz by K.O, it will
    depends on who can execute their game plan properly.
     
  12. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Both PAC and Juan shuld finish out 30, and 35 respectively. Juan's a little closer, with only David Diaz and Joel Casamayor left, as opposed to Pac having Valero, JMM, and the Guzman vs Soto Winner. Ideally? Pac fights Valero, Marquez could fight the winner of Guzman vs Soto, and then winners fight each other. That scenario, allows enough time for the two fights to be made at 35 and deliver a true SUPERFIGHT.

    If both guy's make absolute statements in their respective dvisions? It makes the fight much bigger in respect, money, and legacy for whoever wins out:good

    I've been a fan of the Baby Bull while he's been coming up, this kids style, heart, conditioning, and intelligence is impressive. But this matchup??:think If there's a recipe for WAR? One part, Pacquiao, one part Juan D, and a ring might be it:yep Both guy's move forward and BANG, and love every minute of it:good
     
  13. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Paq outweighed Morales by 6 lbs in their 3rd fight. Him and baby bull will come at the same weight come fight night. Paq needs to fight somebody that is fresh not old veterans. I cant wait until he loses just so the pinoys can go back to singing karaoke or whatever the **** they do. This fools know nothing about boxing except for Manny beating old Mex boxers.
     
  14. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does Manny fighting Diaz have anything to do with Pinoys singing Karaoke? :huh
     
  15. DobyZhee

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    it was a play on stereotypes. Really, he's just pissed off that Pac sent these mexican guys into retirement. He's probably a disgruntled person who is waiting for Pac to lose BECAUSE of his over the top fans.

    I thought he did fight someone fresh like a guy named Solis. Can you really blame Pac for bigger paychecks than fighting up and comers and possibly getting less money?