Floyd was not ready for Pac between 2008-2011. Look what happened to Floyd during that time. He was rocked and wobbled by old man Mosley, he was getting tagged by Victor Ortiz before sucker punching him, then against Cotto his face was all busted up. During that time Pac looked unbeatable. Floyd was clearly terrified of Pac-Man. Floyd did everything possible to duck the fight. He accused Pac of being on PEDs, demanded olympic style blood and urine testing, then after being locked up, he ran away from HBO who was trying to make the fight to Showtime. Before that, Floyd and Pac were both HBO fighters, the fight could have easily been made if Floyd didn't make accusations against Pac and demanded more stringent drug testing. Now whether or not Pac was on something, he certainly had a dramatic bodily and performance transformation, Floyd was right about that, but the fact is that (on PEDs or not) Pac during that time, from 2008-2011 looked way better than Floyd did during that time. He was way more dominant and far more dangerous. Floyd wanted no part of "that" Pac, Pimp. You talk about Floyd's ability to control range and dictate distance, well where was that against Mosley in Round 2 when Mosley caught him and had him in trouble? Where was the ability to control range and dictate distance against Ortiz or Cotto? Floyd was unable to do that against those fighters, so if he couldn't keep himself from getting hit in those fights, what do you think would happen vs Pac? Pac had far more speed and power than old Mosley, Victor Ortiz, or faded Cotto, and those guys tagged him up. It's a no brainer to think what Pac would have been able to do to Floyd. Floyd was going through a tumultuous time. Being sent to jail was a big distraction for him. You look at the outburst against Larry Merchant and his "apology" to Merchant before the Cotto fight, Floyd was ill prepared to take on Pac during that time. Floyd ducked him because Pac during that time would have put a serious hurting on Floyd, a Floyd that was getting tagged and busted up by fighters who were nowhere near as fast or as dangerous as Pac was during that time. Pac was never the same after the Bradley "loss" and then getting KTFO by Marquez. But in 2008-2011, Pac was at the top of his game, whilst Floyd was struggling. During those years, Pac would have been favored to beat Floyd and for good reason.
What happened to Kambosos you troll? Lmfao. I guess the Haney shut his ass out. Now I see you on here spouting nonsense and hating again. Lmfao!!!
I never said Kambosos would win you class clown. I simply compared Kambosos' performance against Selby and Haneys performance against Diaz
Bull****! Wasn't ready yet agreed to everything while pac pulled out of negotiations and ran off to fight clottey. That doesn't make sense and didn't happen. It was pac who wasn't ready not the other way around even Roach went on record saying he needed more time to come up with a game plan for pbf. A gamelan that didn't exist. None of those guys pac beat during that run are pbf that's whatyou seem to be forgetting. None of them are better than pbf none of them are stylistic threats to pac like pbf is. What he did then means nothing. Pbf beat some of the same guys. Look what happen against Mosley??? He had one good round against pbf then pbf proceeded to walk him down in that round and pbf turned it up on Shane firing back. Pbf made adjustments unlike pac and didn't get hit by the same punch again shutting Mosley out for the rest of the fight. Once again high ring iq and making adjustments. Pac in 4 fights with jmm couldn't make that type of adjustment and ended up getting put in a coma by a right hand he saw over 4 fights lmfao. Levels! You mean the same victor Ortiz that was so frustrated by his inability to land clean on pbf that he launched himself like a missile and headbutted pbf??? Funny how you left that out like that didn't happen. Ohhhhh pbf got a bloody nose in a boxing match, stop the presses. The mere fact that you bring this up shows you how dominant pbf was that you bring up a bloody nose, something that happens to damn near every fighter in boxing in almost every fight. It just shows you how desperate you're and have to reach badly to bash pbf. I know it's hard to find stuff on him so you have to dig deep. The fact is cotto gave pbf a harder fight than pac did. Let that sink in. Pac never looked unbeatable, maybe to nuthuggers and casuals he did because they don't know **** about boxing. No guy who comes in without a jab wide open off balanced can't fight on the inside who's a sucker for right hands and counter punchers is unbeatable, those are facts. Pac blowing away a bum in David Diaz a coked up Hatton and a checked out cotto who was mentally not there after his father died, who he didn't blow out btw mean nothing regarding as to how a fight with pac and pbf would've played out back then. Funny because the odds makers don't back your argument even back then pbf was seen as the favorite in their fight back in 2009 when the first talks were. Why?? Because we've seen pac ktfo by torrecampo and the other guy. We saw him get a gift draw against sanchez in a fight no one likes to bring up. We saw him lose to a faded erik Morales. We saw him going life and death with jmm. Whereas pbf didn't have those hiccups and was far more complete. Pac would never be able to come in on prime pbf like that. He would've been either beaten to the punch or caught with a clean counter and made to think twice. We all saw how much jmm gave pac hell with just his countering ring iq and educated footwork. A guy like pbf who's faster longer better reflexes better defense stronger with just as good footwork but even faster feet and a better counter puncher clowns him. We saw this play out already a shot pbf didn't get out of first gear to shutdown Pac's offense beating pac and even better prime version does the same, you're high to think otherwise. Pbf will always be the ring general in this match up because pbf will dictate the engagements pac will always fight pbfs fight because of the counter being beat to the punch and pbf not being there to be hit. He's also fast enough to tie up pac on the inside. Pac can't beat pbf he's not good enough and too flawed boxing isn't a video game. Clean counters and lazer like straight right hands you don't see deter boxers. when you combine that with all of pbfs other skills that's why pac was hesitant and frustrated by the master in pbf. Pbf was never scared of pac you're crazy to even suggest this he was one of the most mentally tough fighters in boxing history. Every fight he had, an arena full of people hoping to see him lose yet delivered and sent them home mad as hell and full of excuses after executing clinic after clinic. His self belief was without peer. Wishful thinkers and haters be damned.
Let me let you into a little secret Floyd was never even a natural 147 pounders. He was at 125 pounds in the Olympics. He won his first world title at 130 pounds. He moved up 5 weight divisions and conquered all. You will notice he was not knocking all and sundry out the way he was at 130-140 ponds at 147-154 pounds. This is because he was natural unlike some other PED cheats or alleged cheats they know who they are. Hatton is the naturally bigger man a real fatty and Floyd kicked his ass period. When Shane assassinated Margarito in his previous fight before Floyd, people were talking of it being a career best performance but typically when Floyd beats the **** out of him overcoming real adversity in the 2nd round you fools make excuses that Shane was too old. The difference is when Floyd was 36 years old he was schooling the undefeated feared Canelo and at 38 he was schooling Pacquiao.There is a reason Floyd is TBE because he earned it the old fashioned way.
I think you will find Pacquiao thought otherwise hence him avoiding the fight because he claimed he was scared of needles and won’t subject himself to the comprehensive drug testing. Hmmnn I wonder why if he was clean? Thanks Floyd for cleaning up boxing.
You’re still living in this fantasy world. What about when Manny gave in and agreed to Floyd’s number of cut off days, yet Floyd declined and said that they were no longer on the table? What about when Floyd wanted to pay Manny $40m and take all of the PPV revenue, from a fight which grossed over $400m? What about when Manny agreed to everything, yet it still took over 18 months for the fight to be paid? What about when Floyd apologised in court because they had no evidence of any wrong doing? What about when Floyd tried to get USADA to write up a special contract, which allowed him the use of a retroactive TUE if needed? What about when Floyd was caught using an illegal IV, and he used a BS excuse which no reasonable and knowledgeable person believed? What about when Floyd and his team purposely didn’t notify the use of the IV to the NSAC, who had to knowledge of it until three weeks AFTER the fight? IMHO, Floyd could/would always have beaten Manny. But make no mistake, Floyd was spooked. Roger had him spooked with tales of A-Side Meth etc. Look at his body language and how he carried himself in various interviews of the time. The insults. The racial slurs. The comments: “We don’t fight to see who’s the best” “It wasn’t the right time to fight Manny back then” We don’t need to hire Columbo. Floyd was greater than Manny. Floyd was one of the greatest fighters who’s ever lived. However, Floyd DID NOT WANT the fight back then. There’s just no other way to look at this. Floyd didn’t have the confidence and the heart to match his skills.
Bull**** who pulled out of talks and who agreed back in 2009 when both were prime? Nothing else needs to be said after that Roach admitted on a video I've posted a million times saying it was their fault but let me guess??? You know more than Roach. The truth is they didn't want the fight for two reasons one they weren't sure they could pass the type of drug test that was being presented. Two they knew pbf was all wrong for them they could age him out he was older and could twist the narrative into something else because pac was more well liked and pbf was hated and the fans would blame pbf for the fight not happening like you're doing now and they could get away with it. I see you don't want to talk about the road blocks of a so called stadium that needed to be built on the Vegas strip as requested by arum as to why the fight couldn't happen. Or the cut that needed time to heal so a fight with pbf was out of the question. After the first initial negotiations back in 2009 both sides had bad blood so a fight wasn't made. In the end we got the fight and pbf won easily.
His shoulder was already injured. He was denied a pain killing injection, whereas your hero was allowed to take PEDS.
@Pimp C the usual suspects are so full of BS. Their lies are so easily refuted and lack invention that it’s become boring.
BS BS BS excuses excuses excuses. If you are injured you don’t fight or when you lose and cry you were injured it makes you sound like a *** punk loser.
