Pacquiao would have stopped Gary Russell Jr./Santa Cruz Inside 6 rounds

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep these guys are very very good fighters.

    And I see some people hype Russell because he won like 3 rounds off Loma. And Vasyl is most peoples p4p best right now.

    But Pac was a different level. Pac KO Russell in 6. Pac KO Santa Cruz in 3.

    Actually pretty easy fights for Pac.
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Russell was always "hyped". It's not because he fought Loma.
    Russell was a good amateur and his physical talents stood out in the pro ranks.

    Such a random thread. At least do a breakdown as to why you believe so. Make it an interesting read.
    "Different level" is just a cop out term.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He makes easy work of Santa Cruz. A pressure fighter without a big right hand. Pacquiao is a stylistic nightmare for him.

    Russell Jr. Is very fast, but a short armed southpaw. Pacquiao just walks right through him. There is nothing to halt Pacquiaos attack.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    What do you mean by "big right hand"? Because Pac is a southpaw?
    Santa Cruz is no KO artist, but hes not feather fisted either. His right hand is actually quite accurate. And Santa Cruz outboxed Frampton and Mares on the outside, and outbrawled them when the need be.

    Santa Cruz is just not good enough to beat Pac. But he won't loose just because hes a brawler and Pac is a southpaw.
    Speed and precision? Look how easily Russell destroyed Gonzales with crisp, short counters.
    Speed kills.


    :lol: To say that Russell would get steamrolled because his arms are too short.
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lehlo Ledwaba was almost as fast as Russell Jr. Hell his jab is probably right there with him as far as accuracy and precision. It was a ridiculously easy fight for Pac.

    And yes Pac walks through Cruzs right hand. There just isn't enough power on it.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Nobody walks through anything. It's an absolutely ridiculous idea.
    What would happen is Pac would overwhelm them.
    Russell would land some nice counters, but eventually Pac would break him down.

    Santa Cruz would not be able to keep up either.
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ok semantics. Pacquiao gets hit, he calculates that it doesnt hurt enough, then walks towards them and then punches them.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    No feinting? No head movement? No angles? No distance measuring?
     
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  9. Paranoid Android

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    Wow. Holy crap. The savage beating Santa Cruz would take...
     
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  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Some guys have power and some don't.
     
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  11. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well yes that too. But it wouldnt even be all that necessary.
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yea he would absorb just an incredible amount of ass whooping. All time beatdown that would be.
     
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  13. Paranoid Android

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    I mean, I would fear for Leo's health in that match up.
     
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  14. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    LSC in 3 rounds!? He beats him comfortably but that seems a little much.
     
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  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Leo is though and solid. But i have to agree with it being brutal. Pac would wear him down like he did Morales in the rematch.
    LSC has some early success but Pac would be too good and too much.
     
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