Pacquiao's 2nd KO loss (to Singsurat) Full fight

plus n 2005 when pac was fighting morales

mayweather was fighting Henry Bruseles and Arturo Gatti.....hardly marquez barrea and morales

 

after de la hoya..... but what are you trying to prove?

it dosnt matter who was first p4p... floyd retires manny took his spot

 

You're being selective. Why don't you go back to the late 90's and early 2000's and compare their opponents.

 

I see you keep avoiding my question!:rofl


Answer the question. Was Pacquiao considered p4p#1 or #2 in 2005?

Also when was the first time Pacquiao earned p4p#1?

 

im not being selective.... manny didnt have the same opertunities as mayweather.... look at where they are fighting...philipeans or usa, wheres the top quality opisition going to be...

 

When floyd retired is absolutely correct. As long as Floyd is fighting he will never be considered p4p #1.

It took for Floyd to retire and the 2008 for Manny to reach that elite p4p#1 level and he has been fighting since 1995.

 

plus they both became wbc world champions in 1998

 

Ok average was the wrong term to use. He was a good fighter but not elite until 2008 is what i am saying. He was still getting his ass kicked in 2005.


Now answer my question.

 

Same opportunities? He could have come over earlier but he didn't, probably for good reason as he was still losing fights in the late 90's.

That's my main problem with people claiming that Pacquiao's resume is far superior to Mayweather. Manny wouldn't be boxing anymore if he faced the same opponents as Mayweather did at the same time he did.

All things being equal, their resume's are pretty close.

 

alright two things....what did it take for floyd to become p4p number 1?

and why does it matter who got their first... at that time they were completley diffrent weights

 

What does it matter what weight they are fighting in if its a p4p ranking?:huh

 

pacs last 10 fights:

Joshua Clottey
Miguel Angel Cotto
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
David Diaz
Juan Manuel Marquez
Marco Antonio Barrera
Jorge Solis
Erik Morales
Oscar Larios

mays last 10 fights:

Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Marquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
Carlos Manuel Baldomir
Zab Judah
Sharmba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Bruseles
DeMarcus Corley

 

pac wasnt going to fight welter may as a lightweight for the number 1 spot was he now