Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

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  1. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think cotto wants to have a rematch.

    Pac wining against a drained and old shane won't improve his resume.
     
  2. digger

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    Mate actually Shane is the one who called out for Pacquiao and Shane is
    willing to come down at a catch weight. I think mosley have the descipline
    to make it at even 142 and rehydrate the following day I think he is capable of doing so.
     
  3. Above Deck

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    I see Freddies thinking - to get the scalp of Mosely, which he would
    see as an easy target, being 38 - needing coin and therefore likely
    to waste down to 142-143, it would be a sure fire win for pac at that
    weight, then he would command 60-40 purse against Floyd, at least.

    But, if Pac fights Mosely at 144 or higher, then he is going to be up
    against it, because Mosely can take a hit - and IMO matches Pac speed
    wise, Im sure Freddie is more than well aware and they will get Mosely
    down to 142 and therefore a no risk fight for Pac..

    Mosely at 147 plus is the only guy that can test Floyd IMO..

    Floyd wont fight Pac any lower than 147, both himself and Pac are
    already declaring their preferred weight..

    But Pac can fight Oscar at 147, so if he dont fight Floyd at that weight,
    then It doesnt say a lot.
     
  4. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only fighters that would even put him in shouting distance of the money he would make fighting Pac are Cotto and PBF. None of those guys you mentioned even come close. Clottey would be a VERY serious threat to take his belt, and Williams would be a FAVORITE against him. Cotto and Clottey are pretty much out of the discussion anyway, since they're going to be fighting each other this weekend and I'm sure Shane doesn't want to wait a year to have his next fight. He's a man in a race against Father Time, a race he's going to lose. He wants to cash in as much as possible before it's all over for him.

    His best option by far is Pac if he can make it happen, and that's what he's trying to do. He would have been just as happy to fight PBF, but that option is off the table because of PBF-JMM. I would guess that Shane is throwing these stories around to try to build up anticipation for the fight and make it inevitable.
     
  5. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree bernie, that's why he's willing to go down to 144 lbs, a 60/40 split and even a rematch clause. He even got oscar talks **** to psycho team pacquiao but the thing is pac has more options with better financial awards than mosley so mosley has to wait in line and better think of more convincing strategy to lure pac.

    Pac says it's or two more fights before saying goodbye to boxing the reason of which is the next year's election. I hope he loses in his congressional bid so that we would see more of him in two to three more years fighting.
     
  6. dhenzrae

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    and mosley was weighing what? 160?
    pac was at 135 that time, so 154 (oscar's natural weight) is 3 divisions up, right?

    like i said, if pac will fight mosely at his weight, will mosley get any credit? if no, then it's unfair to him. i think 144 is the right weight where the winner really gets credit.
     
  7. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree, Pac is not a Welterweight, just as JMM is not a Welterweight but has the balls nonetheless to fight the best P4P fighter in the world this coming July 18th......

    ......I'm hoping that Pacquiao does'nt fight Mosely.....that will leave the door open in the case JMM shocks the world and beats Mayweather......it will leave the door open for Marquez and not Pacquiao to do a number on Mosely......

    ......thats right, you heard right.....imo Mosley is a fighter primed and ready to get taken by a fighter with manueverability.......imo Mosley's legs and his ability to use them are not what they used to be.....
    .....both JMM and Pacquiao imo beat Mosley at 144 lbs....if Pacquiao does'nt take the Mosley fight, JMM in the event he beats Mayweather, will.
     
  8. Schmapps

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    Suddenly I'm pretty excited about boxing again. Floyd, Mosley, Pac, JMM and Paul Williams all in the mix as well as others, and none of us really know what fights will be made. Love it. But we know they will be good, personally I think Pbf-JMM is intriguing despite the accusations of 'mismatch', and I would welcome Mosley-Pac as a huge, excitng fight.
     
  9. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who's Pac going to fight? His interesting possible opponents are Mosley, PBF, JMM, Cotto, Clottey, Valero and maybe Linares, Soto and if you really stretch it, Guzman. He's not going to get paid against Valero, Soto, Guzman or Linares and they're all threats. Those fights aren't going to happen PERIOD. PBF, JMM, Cotto and Clottey are all booked up.

    Who else is he going to fight? A tune-up? Can't see it. I think Pac almost has to make this fight happen.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac can wait another few weeks until the Marquez-Mayweather fight is past......but even then, Pac is asking for more than Mayweather, and it just seem unrealistic to me.......

    ......and to fight JMM in a third match if Marquez were to beat Mayweather, Pac would have to be willing to 50/50 split or very near it....and it seems Pac and Bob Arum are not willing to give JMM more than 35%, which in essence is going to prevent that fight from happening again.

    ......you're right, Mosley is the one fighter right now who's willing to concede financially.....

    ....imo, Pac will live to regret not fighting Mosley when he had the chance if someone gets to Mosley first.
    At 38 years old, Mosley has alot of mileage on him, and if anyone saw the Ricardo Mayorga fight, he primed ready to get taken by a skill fighter who's not going to walk straight to him like what Margarito did.
     
  11. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree on every point, except that it doesn't matter if Pac will wait a few weeks after the JMM-PBF is past, because it's not going to change anything. His major dance partners are still going to be out of it for at least 6 to 9 months after their fights, and Shane is still the only big name left for him to fight.
     
  12. rjamesd1

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    No one's forcing SHANE to fight PAC, and he's the one who's asking for a fight. If it's gonna kill him to make 144 weight because he's already 38, then why not retire! that would be STUPID, is it not! :hat
     
  13. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First of all, PAC is not the one chasing MOSLEY here. If MOSLEY really wants a fight, WILLIAMS is available and he's calling him out. PAC will never regret if he won't fight MOSLEY, he's already MADE, and doesn't need a MOSLEY for his LEGACY. :hat
     
  14. Chert

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    i think he was talking about the dlh fight. pac just had his first fight @135 vs. diaz. it therefore would've been too unfair for pac to move up 3 weight classes to 154 and fight dlh at his natural weight. that's why that fight was held @147 instead. pac went up 2 weight classes while dlh went down 1 which was but fair under the circumstances.

    it was team dlh's fault of having the wrong weight strategy of making 147. the usual strategy is to make 147 at the very last moment for the weigh-in and rehydrate overnight to your usual fighting weight. team dlh instead made oscar make 147 too early with still a month to go before the fight. as a result, they virtually shrunk dlh to a small welter and that's why he wasn't able to rehydrate overnight to his usual fighting weight of 155+. you certainly can't blame pac for a mistake team dlh did to themselves.
     
  15. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    as for pac-mosley @147, pac is a very small welter since his fighting weight is about 148-149. mosley, on the other hand is a large welter coming in 160 during fights. that's why this fight has to happen at a catchweight just to somewhat compensate for the very big size diffference (149 vs. 160) between them.