Pacquiao's performance against JMM and Oscar de la Hoya

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just rewatched Pacquiao vs Marquez II and Pacquiao vs de la Hoya back to back and I kept comparing his performance against Marquez and de la Hoya and you can clearly see how different his movement was between both fights. His footwork wasn't there against Marquez but he looked so smooth against de la Hoya, circling him and going in and out with impressive foot movement. Oscar was way past it, sure, but I was very impressed with his performance that night.
    I just hope Pacquiao shows that he has indeed improved his game once he faces Marquez in the ring for the last time. That would clear all doubts.
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    different styles, different weights, different opponents.
     
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I dont think we will ever see pac from that fight again, that or the hatton fight is the best pacquiao has ever looked.
     
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  4. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    He looked phenomenal against De La Hoya because he had an old man infront of him who couldn't do a damn thing to slow him down. Pacquiao's contrast in performances had less to do with Manny and more to do with his competition.
     
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  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    stylistically, jmm would be always give pac some trouble. same case with pac always giving oscar fits.
     
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  6. leone25

    leone25 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's versatility is underated
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    The things you notice should be expected. Of course a young and fast P4P champion is going to have great footwork against an old man who hadn't fought at welterweight in SEVEN YEARS!!!!! Above average win- yeah. Championship level win- probably. An ATG legacy elevating win- no, aside from PPV sales, which don't show up in the ring, hell no.
     
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  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Juan's footwork against emmanuel made all the difference in the world.
     
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  9. BumOfTheMonth

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  10. Englund

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    Yeah, Oscar couldn't do anything to control Manny Pacquiao. Marquez, on the other hand, didn't allow Manny to go wherever he wanted. That's why the footwork looked better against Oscar. If the same Pacquiao that fought Oscar showed up against Marquez, the footwork wouldn't have looked as smooth or as fluid as it did with DLH.
     
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  11. Goro

    Goro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao was weight drained in the JMM 2 fight.
     
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  12. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Buuullll****
     
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  13. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The guy who has to eat 7000 calories a day to maintain 147 was drained fighting at 130??? really?
     
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  14. puga_ni_nana

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  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    His footwork "wasn't there?" No, an elite and fluid combination-throwing counter-puncher was taking away his punching angle and rotating away from his left hand while negating the space between them when Pacquiao lunged in order to use his momentum against him accurately and consistently.

    Against a very sub-optimal and static De La Hoya, his lateral movement and offensive arsenal looked much more dynamic, because those things weren't there.


    And no, this third meeting will not "clear all doubts" because any trouble Pacquiao had making 130 could not compare to the gap between them in age and weight at this point; their most even meeting already happened at 130.
     
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