Pacquiao's Power Amazes Ariza

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by h2hkiller, Jan 26, 2010.


  1. 8count

    8count sidekick Full Member

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    seriously though, Addie. And this is an opinion. all the excuses that are hard to believe are all smoke and mirrors. negotiations failed because of several things and the steroid accusation was just fuel to the fire. Pac is running for election that does not allow him to be in the limelight from March to May(campaign time). Schedule is so ****ed up he had to set a date for March 13 or after May (with training time of course).

    It seems though that everything could have been salvaged by agreeing to the 24day cut-off but when Floyd asked for the unnecessary 14 days, Pac's team took that opportunity to get out of negotiation and get to making money against another Top Rank fighter at a Stadium that Arum had originally planned. Add that to the fact that Arum sincerely hates Mayweather and probably doesn't want floyd to taste a nickel off that potential $40million.

    To better understand the breakdown of the fight nego, try and drop the absurdities such as 'Manny on steroids' and 'Floyd is scared'. all this talk about manny scared of needles, scared it would weaken him are all BS. I dont really think Floyd believes he'll lose against Manny either (roided or not). Floyd knows he can beat a boxer puncher like Pac even if he does walk thru his punches. He's skilled enuf.

    Anyway, in summary, Pac's team don't want to **** up political ambitions in the Philippines by taking a risky fight he can still have after election. Floyd had the mistake to let it slip with his mind games. And ARum has the MOST to gain from all this fiasco, his undercard, his friend's stadium, his event, his fighters. ... letting THE ultimate FIGHT go was an easy business decision BECAUSE the clamor for it later in the year will not die down.
     
  2. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For all this long post that you said, tell us what roid Pac is using. Let us analyze it from there.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm glad you mentioned circumstantial. because when you look at it, there is nothing but circumstantial evidence would lead anyone to suspect Pac is on anything, much less be sure that he's guilty.

    He's extremely good and he doesn't want to take blood tests in the 24 days leading up to his fight against Floyd, therefore he could be on PEDs.

    That is extremely circumstantial.
     
  4. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Ariza is amazed at waffle iron heads power because he gives PAc his roids/hgh lol...
     
  5. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    When you say you are afraid of needles, agree to testing, and then back out over a difference of 10 days, you are guilty in the eyes of public opinion. PAc is a freakin roid taker... face it Pac fans...
     
  6. namcap

    namcap Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe only haters opinion not public opinion.
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You say that as a disclaimer giving you rights to question just one side of the tango that took two parties. Thus, I'm not really sure what your motives are but they do seem obvious.

    You want to just question Manny's side, and ignore the calculated propaganda from the Mayweather's and the maligned reporting. Is that fair? How can you question Manny without accepting wholeheartedly the false accusations?

    I don't believe Arum nor Schaefer verbatim, so I'm not gonna sit around and wax poetic about why oh why they pulled the wool over us all. However, what I can do logically is think about the actual demand and the practicalities and science behind it.

    After I did this, and after researching the topic... it's obvious the whole thing is to put it bluntly bull****. Maybe you should do some real research and come to your own conclusion instead of just challenging the side that is more comfortable to your bias?

    I will continue to defend Manny against these false allegations, because that's exactly what they are. I don't know what the deal is if there is some hidden hate or prejudice against Manny, but there seems to be unending hate for this guy for no reason. No reason, and no proof.
     
  8. zangetsu

    zangetsu Getsuga Tenshou Full Member

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    If PBF really said that PAC was an easy fight, why demand olympic style testing?

    PBF knew Pac is clean from NSAC for 10 years so there is just one final conclusion.

    PBF is a chicken.

    I wouldn't be surprised if PBF requests another outrageous demand if PAC were to agree to dates of the blood tests.