Pacquiao's Power is very OVERRATED!

davebenoit · Nov 19, 2010

RightHandLead17 said: ↑

How hard does Pacquiao actually hit? I think that Pac doesn't hit as hard as people claim. These are all the factors in Pacs "power", 1) the opponent 2) the condition of the opponent 3) catch weights/ weight drainage 4) glove size. Look at Pac's last 5 opponents, they are all truly different fighters but they all were coming off of recent loses and unimpressive wins against lesser opponents; Oscar lost to Floyd Jr. then had an unimpressive win against Steve Forbes. Hatton also lost to Floyd Jr and had 2 unimpressive wins over Juan Lazcano and Paulie Malignaggi. Cotto was battered by Margarito and had a dull win over Micheal Jennings and a questionable decision over Joshua Clottey. Margarito got creamd' by Mosley then got a dull win over Robert Garcia;

The catch weights were used to drain these fights so they would be slow and unable to pull the trigger;

Now here's where I question his raw power, he drained Oscar from about 160 down to 147, then on fight night he outweighed Oscar but he couldn't even put Oscar, a weightdrained/ old/ shot fighter on his butt

When have you ever seen a Welterweight/Middleweight fight use 8oz gloves? They have less weight/padding on them which makes a big difference down the stretch.

so what do you guys think?
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Boxing is not about hurting your opponents. Floyd scored only 1 KO in his last 5 fights. His power is more overrated than Pac, IMO.

OPBF · Nov 19, 2010

Well, he wasn't as devastating a puncher from when he was back in Super Bantam or at Flyweight. I mean, he knocked the lineal champion out with one punch and he didn't have technique or anything and he was way behind on points.

Exactabox · Nov 19, 2010

davebenoit said: ↑

Boxing is not about hurting your opponents. Floyd scored only 1 KO in his last 5 fights. His power is more overrated than Pac, IMO.
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its actually weaker than that 1 Ko in 6 fights
Shane Mosley 5/1/10 147 W UD - Out of the ring 15 months 39 and hurt Floyd
Juan Manuel Marquez 9/19/09 142 W UD -Never fought above 135 in his life
Ricky Hatton 12/8/07 145 TKO 10 - Manny blinded him and KO in 2
Oscar De La Hoya 5/5/07 154 W SD - Manny death by 1000 left hands
Carlos Baldomir 4/11/06 147 W UD 12 - Sr or Jr ?
Zab Judah 4/8/06 145 W UD - Was knocked down when tapped w/right hook

horst · Nov 19, 2010

RightHandLead17 said: ↑

How hard does Pacquiao actually hit? I think that Pac doesn't hit as hard as people claim. These are all the factors in Pacs "power", 1) the opponent 2) the condition of the opponent 3) catch weights/ weight drainage 4) glove size. Look at Pac's last 5 opponents, they are all truly different fighters but they all were coming off of recent loses and unimpressive wins against lesser opponents; Oscar lost to Floyd Jr. then had an unimpressive win against Steve Forbes. Hatton also lost to Floyd Jr and had 2 unimpressive wins over Juan Lazcano and Paulie Malignaggi. Cotto was battered by Margarito and had a dull win over Micheal Jennings and a questionable decision over Joshua Clottey. Margarito got creamd' by Mosley then got a dull win over Robert Garcia;

The catch weights were used to drain these fights so they would be slow and unable to pull the trigger;

Now here's where I question his raw power, he drained Oscar from about 160 down to 147, then on fight night he outweighed Oscar but he couldn't even put Oscar, a weightdrained/ old/ shot fighter on his butt

When have you ever seen a Welterweight/Middleweight fight use 8oz gloves? They have less weight/padding on them which makes a big difference down the stretch.

so what do you guys think?
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Pacquiao's power is very RATED APPROPRIATELY.

He doesn't hit as hard as proven welterweight big punchers like Shane Mosley, but he does hit extremely hard, that's why his punches weaken the knees of big welters like Margo and Cotto, and that's why his punches obliterate junior-welters like Hatton. :good

Beouche · Nov 19, 2010

Popkins said: ↑

Pacquiao's power is very RATED APPROPRIATELY.

He doesn't hit as hard as proven welterweight big punchers like Shane Mosley, but he does hit extremely hard, that's why his punches weaken the knees of big welters like Margo and Cotto, and that's why his punches obliterate junior-welters who can no longer take a shot like Hatton. :good
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Fixed :good

causality · Nov 19, 2010

davebenoit said: ↑

Boxing is not about hurting your opponents. Floyd scored only 1 KO in his last 5 fights. His power is more overrated than Pac, IMO.
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*****s think Floyd KOs Pac. And when you hear them say why, it's as if they got Floyd and Pac mixed up.

bandido · Nov 19, 2010

RightHandLead17 said: ↑

How hard does Pacquiao actually hit? I think that Pac doesn't hit as hard as people claim. These are all the factors in Pacs "power", 1) the opponent 2) the condition of the opponent 3) catch weights/ weight drainage 4) glove size. Look at Pac's last 5 opponents, they are all truly different fighters but they all were coming off of recent loses and unimpressive wins against lesser opponents; Oscar lost to Floyd Jr. then had an unimpressive win against Steve Forbes. Hatton also lost to Floyd Jr and had 2 unimpressive wins over Juan Lazcano and Paulie Malignaggi. Cotto was battered by Margarito and had a dull win over Micheal Jennings and a questionable decision over Joshua Clottey. Margarito got creamd' by Mosley then got a dull win over Robert Garcia;

The catch weights were used to drain these fights so they would be slow and unable to pull the trigger;

Now here's where I question his raw power, he drained Oscar from about 160 down to 147, then on fight night he outweighed Oscar but he couldn't even put Oscar, a weightdrained/ old/ shot fighter on his butt

When have you ever seen a Welterweight/Middleweight fight use 8oz gloves? They have less weight/padding on them which makes a big difference down the stretch.

so what do you guys think?
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here's a suggestion to settle this. why don't you ask pac to hit you in the face once, then you come back to us with a full report.

hmi · Nov 19, 2010

bballchump11 said: ↑

Not true. I tried telling some Pacquiao fans that Mosley hits harder, but they kept disagreeing with me
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They may have a point. Did Mosley able to KD Cotto?

s23041983 · Nov 19, 2010

whats worse? one punch @ 800lbs/psi or 5 punches @ 500lbs/psi??

mannys combinations are key! they do more damage overall.

GladiatoR · Nov 19, 2010

zangetsu said: ↑

Catchweights are allowed to even the playing field. If you say catchweights are used to drain a fighter, then why do these fighters agree on catchweights in the first place?

Isn't it illogical to agree on a catchweight knowing you'll lose?
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I'm sure most fighters would fight handicapped for a nice pay day and the chance of dethroning the P4P #1.

Exactabox · Nov 19, 2010

GladiatoR said: ↑

I'm sure most fighters would fight handicapped for a nice pay day and the chance of dethroning the P4P #1.
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Correction:

I'm sure most fighters would fight Manny for a nice pay day and the chance of dethroning the P4P #1 even though they will end up handicapped after the fight. :thumbsup

hmi · Nov 19, 2010

BunnyGibbons said: ↑

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What is the relation of this Chinese guy in the discussion in this thread?

RightHandLead17 · Nov 19, 2010

difO said: ↑

yeah but no one cares because everyone knows pac isnt the hardest hitter at 147 and it's his accumulation and accuracy that does the damage. so we accept what you're saying... now **** off
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ok so, here's the big question; you claim his power is from his accumulation/accuracy bt do you think he can KO fighters like Berto, Bradley, Alexander, or Floyd Jr? These are all fighters that were barely knocked down in their careers let alone KO'd

RightHandLead17 · Nov 19, 2010

bandido said: ↑

here's a suggestion to settle this. why don't you ask pac to hit you in the face once, then you come back to us with a full report.
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ha I'm not just a bull**** ******* that will never watch boxing again after Pac gets beat/retires I'm a fan of the sport as a whole nd I also box myself so I have personal exp. Now I'm also a fan of Pac but he's lost alot of my respect...he lost it once he moved up 2 lightweight and fought weakest link David Diaz,

RightHandLead17 · Nov 19, 2010

:think

causality said: ↑

*****s think Floyd KOs Pac. And when you hear them say why, it's as if they got Floyd and Pac mixed up.
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well I know your a ******* becuz Floyd Jr was never apart of this discussion, this thread is about Pac...now Floyd Jr has the higher chance of a KO and it will most likely be a TKO...becuz Pac's power comes from constant flush shots and nobodies been able to land more than 3 shots on Floyd at a time...

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