Pacquiao's techniques to getting an opponent to the ropes

I can see it now Pac driving mayweather to the ropes landing hard lefts and rights and the crowd going crazy but this time Mayweather will be getting hit badly

I already got a hard on just thinking about it

 

Anyone who takes that literally is even more disturbing :hi:

basically in others words exited to see Pac put a beating on the coward even though Pac has declined dramatically

 

I think pac looks really bad in this fight,chasing him round in circles,terrible balance,he needs a vast improvement on that performance

 

Pacquiao is not the greatest at cutting the ring down, but then Floyd is not the hardest to get to the ropes either. Floyd seems comfortable on the ropes so doesn't panick when on the ropes unlike most slick boxers. Personally, Pacquiao could look bad in this fight. He never does look good against counter punchers. Pacquiao's best fights are against come forward boxers who are slower than him.

 

He didn't look bad. He looked bored, frustrated and unchallenged. The truth is, it's almost impossible to look good in a fight where your opponent is literally in retreat/defense mode the entire time and doesn't mount any offense at all. And still, Pacquiao put him on the canvas 6 times.

The more I think about this Mayweather fight, the more confused I get with it. I just rewatched the Judah fight, and Mayweather had all sorts of problems in the first few rounds with him. He just didn't look comfortable. And Judah was fighting very defensive, and mostly looking to counter with a left uppercut. But one thing I noticed is that, Floyd NEVER went to the ropes. And I think it's because he respected Judah's power and speed.

Floyd has been fighting stationary guys, who come straight in, and who's punches he can see (Oscar, Cotto, Maidana, Canelo....) and he has put himself on the ropes against them. Why? Either because Freddie is right, and his legs are shot. Or, he wants to have exciting fights, and knows he can counter these guys.

I question whether anybody can put Floyd on the ropes, IF he doesn't WANT to go there.

The way I see Pacquiao getting Floyd to the ropes, is beating him to the punch in the middle of the ring. If and when Floyd sees that Pac is out-maneuvering him and outlanding him in the middle, he MAY go to the ropes to try another strategy of crowding Pac, and countering on the inside. OR he may walk right at him with a high guard, and try to bully Pacquiao backwards. :deal

But Sorry Abuffy, I really don't even think you can compare Algieri's footwork to Floyd's. For an example, See in the 9th round, Algieri is circling away from Pac, and puts himself in a defenseless and off balance position, where Pac capitalizes and knocks him out (he didn't beat the 10 count) :deal Floyd would never make such a mistake, his footwork is on another level.

 

Actually pac looks his best against 1 punch counter punchers.

He eats them alive. Feint and counter the counter is his bread and ****ing butter. The conly counter puncher who has ever given him trouble is the guy who feinted his feints.

 

Pac is smarter than people give him credit for, he thinks in the ring, especially in recent years.

I truly believe today's Pacquiao will be more difficult for Floyd than the Pacquiao of 09-11. Pacquiao always had the raw talent, skills and physical attributes but in years past, seems to rely too much on them and not use his mind as much. When a fighter possesses so much skill and athleticism, he can beat almost anyone without thinking much, just imposing his superior abilities. Facing a smart tactician like JMM though, was problematic. Floyd will be smart and Pac will have to be smart too. The 09-11 Pac would've most likely charged Floyd by taking too many risks; i'm not sure this would've worked. Today's Pac will try and be smart and a Pacquiao that combines his physical talents with smart tactics will be a big challenge for Floyd. I think Floyd recognizes Pac's amazing skills but betting that he will get reckless, i think Pac will surprise him.

 

The key here is cutting the ring off. He HAS to cut the ring off properly and consistently to be in this fight. If he's ever fooled into brainlessly plodding/chasing, Antonio "Hands of Plaster" style, then he's getting schooled.

 

:good perfect way to put it. Or imagine if he knocked Bradley down in the rematch. It really did look like Pacquiao was just going through the motions. And I really believe they accepted the Algieri fight because they wanted 12 rounds of boxing somebody that constantly moved to see how Pac would do chasing a guy around and trying to cut off the ring. I think they knew they would most likely face Floyd next.

Here's a tricky question. And it's hard to answer.

A. They are both great fighters, with excellent footwork. However, Manny has the benefit of fighting and sparring with conventional fighters almost exclusively. So his foot positioning against a "righty" comes natural to him. It is what he is used to. Where as Floyd is the opposite. He has exceptional footwork and positioning against other conventional fighters. He has only fought a few southpaws. And like I said above. He looked very uncomfortable against Judah early on, and was actually tripped up a couple times. He is going to have to do everything different than he's used to in this fight. And his natural instincts are built on NOT fighting southpaws, where as Manny's natural instincts are suited for fighting conventional fighters.

BUT!

B. Manny is prone to making mistakes. And can fall into traps. JMM had Manny constantly out of position and over and over won the battle of Foot placement. If Floyd is able to get off first, and make Manny react to him, he will absolutely force Manny off balance and out of position.

So it's Manny's history of making random mistakes and putting himself off balance and out of position by jumping around VS. Floyd's discomfort with fighting a southpaw.

I give the edge to Manny :deal His footwork is underrated.