Pacquiso wasn't robbed!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Nopporn, Aug 17, 2012.


  1. FloydPatterson

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    I gave Bradley 5 rounds, Pacquiao let him of the hook after the 8th. And Bradley had the first round
     
  2. JASPER

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    I saw it 8-4, 9-3 kinda fight for Pac. I thought Pac won clearly but he did take his foot of the gas at the end and If refs give a few close rounds to Bradley early on it can easily switch around. Pac should have finished strong but took his foot of of the gas. He learned the Hardway (like Oscar did) you have to fight the full 12 rounds.

    I see the Anology with this fight with the PBF v Cotto fight and I cannot see the corralation. Cotto gave a good account of himself but in my eyes PBF clearly won almost every round. Pac won a few rounds big but over all the rounds were way closer than Floyd v Cotto
     
  3. el_indio

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    Not a clean shot from Pacquiao landed whereas Tim was landing bombs.
     
  4. Pimp C

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  5. turbotime

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    I loved trollin' the pacturds for a few weeks after the fight but yeah, Uncle Bob really put his J touch on this fight in favour of Timmeh :yep
     
  6. FloydPatterson

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    I guarantee that Bob took Pacman to the side before the fight and told him to let of the gas after the 6th.
     
  7. exodus

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    You're right - he wasn't robbed.

    Bradley won 7-5, though a draw would have been an acceptable result.

    The fact of the matter is Pacquiao looked horrible, and when taking in to account the fact that Bradley's movement and power was considerably hampered for the majority of the fight by the injury he sustained early - Pacquiao's performance is even worse.

    I only hope that the seemingly obvious trend that has developed over Pacquiao's last few fights - since Margarito or PED allegations, whichever you like - is transient and we see him return to form. To be frank, I think that might be the optimist in me, I think he's done and really believe Bradley will absolutely dominate him if the rematch takes place.

    7-5 Bradley. I'm actually pleased to see judges get it right for a change, and not be swayed by popular opinion or promoter and sanctioning bodies influence.
     
  8. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It seemed that nobody could answer my question.

    Let me ask the people who thought that Pacquiao got robbed one more time, if it was a robbery, then why didn't the State Commission and WBO order the immediate rematch after they reviewed the tape?

    Did they not know how to score the fight properly? Well...I don't think so.

    Another question : there was a rematch clause so why didn't Team Pacquiao take it if they thought that it was a robbery?
     
  9. Badlok

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    i had it 115-113 Pac the 2 times i judge it , so no he didn't got rubbed sonce it was a close fight , i have seen much worst!
     
  10. elchivito

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    Close fight, but after rewatching it Bradley just landed more. A draw not out of the question.
     
  11. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, it was. I agree with you totally.:good
     
  12. dangerousity

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    98% of media insiders scored the fight for Pacquiao. The absolute best you could do was a draw, thats being bias all the way to Bradley. It was a clear 7-5 fight towards Pacquiao and if we were to be bias towards Pacquiao as we are to Bradley to get a draw, its arguably 10-2 to Pac.

    Vid highlighting the clean punches, **** did Bradley even get more than 5 clean punches in?

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  13. dangerousity

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    The problem is, it was a CLEAR 115-113 to Pac minimum. To give Bradley the fight, you would literally have to give Bradley not 1 round, but 2 rounds for free! Thats clear robbery, not 2 close rounds, but just giving him 2 rounds for free for the hell of it. Thats bull****.

    Writer Agency Scorecard Winner
    1 Barry Tompkins Showtime 119-110 Pacquiao
    2 Harold Lederman HBO 119-109 Pacquiao
    3 Ray Markarian The Sweet Science 119-109 Pacquiao
    4 Michael Marley Examiner 119-109 Pacquiao
    5 Dan Rafael ESPN 119-109 Pacquiao
    6 Vittorio Tafur San Francisco Chronicle 119-109 Pacquiao
    7 Michael Woods The Sweet Science 119-109 Pacquiao
    8 Ramon Aranda 3 More Rounds 118-110 Pacquiao
    9 Mario Cabrera Boxing Republic 118-110 Pacquiao
    10 Nigel Collins ESPN 118-110 Pacquiao
    11 Mike Coppinger Ring Magazine 118-110 Pacquiao
    12 Ace Freeman Fight Fan 118-110 Pacquiao
    13 Rich Marotta KFI Los Angeles 118-110 Pacquiao
    14 Kelsey McCarson The Sweet Science 118-110 Pacquiao
    15 Gabriel Montoya MaxBoxing 118-110 Pacquiao
    16 Pete O’Brien USA Today 118-110 Pacquiao
    17 Eric Raskin Grantland 118-110 Pacquiao
    18 Michael Rosenthal Ring Magazine 118-110 Pacquiao
    19 Colin Seymour Examiner 118-110 Pacquiao
    20 Ryan Songalia Ring Magazine 118-110 Pacquiao
    21 Ryan Burton Boxing Scene 117-111 Pacquiao
    22 Scott Christ Bad Left Hook 117-111 Pacquiao
    23 Tim Dahlberg Associated Press 117-111 Pacquiao
    24 Gareth Davies London Daily Telegraph 117-111 Pacquiao
    25 Doug Fischer Ring Magazine 117-111 Pacquiao
    26 David Greisman Boxing Scene 117-111 Pacquiao
    27 Jorge Hernandez The Low Blow 117-111 Pacquiao
    28 Kevin Iole Yahoo! Sports 117-111 Pacquiao
    29 Robert Littal Black Sports Online 117-111 Pacquiao
    30 Steve Kim Max Boxing 117-111 Pacquiao
    31 Ryan Maquiñana Comcast SportsNet Bay Area 117-111 Pacquiao
    32 David Mayo MLive 117-111 Pacquiao
    33 Kieran Mulvaney HBO 117-111 Pacquiao
    34 Lance Pugmire Los Angeles Times 117-111 Pacquiao
    35 Chris Robinson Boxing Scene 117-111 Pacquiao
    36 Nick Xouris Fight Hype 118-111 Pacquiao
    37 Champ Ross Da Truth Boxing 117-111 Pacquiao
    38 Luis Sandoval Boxing Scene 117-111 Pacquiao
    39 Jonathan Sakti Comcast SportsNet Bay Area 117-111 Pacquiao
    40 Tim Starks Queensberry Rules 117-111 Pacquiao
    41 Richie Tomassini Comcast SportsNet Bay Area 117-111 Pacquiao
    42 Darren Velasco 8 Count News 117-111 Pacquiao
    43 Rick Reeno Boxing Scene 116-112 Pacquiao
    44 George Willis New York Post 116-112 Pacquiao
    45 Steve Zemach Queensberry Rules 116-112 Pacquiao
    46 Salmaan Ahmed Fight Today UK 116-112 Pacquiao
    47 Armando Alvarez Telemundo 115-113 Pacquiao
    48 Jake Donovan Boxing Scene 115-113 Pacquiao
    49 Lem Satterfield Ring Magazine 115-113 Pacquiao
    50 Thomas Hauser HBO 115-114 Bradley
    51 Bart Barry HBO 116-115 Bradley
    52 Brian Kenny Top Rank 116-112 Bradley
    53 Springs Toledo The Sweet Science 117-112 Pacquiao
    54 Michael Galvin RAF 116-112 Pacquiao
    55 Aleksander Nazarov Boxing Scene 118-110 Pacquiao
    56 Cliff Rold Boxing Scene 117-111 Pacquiao


    The ****? Did they all get it wrong? 3 out of 56 scored it for Bradley? Are you kidding me?
     
  14. dangerousity

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    In contrast, the JMM 3 fight that so many cry robbery about:

    Blake Dreisbach, BleacherReport.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Ron Borges, The Sweet Science/Boston Herald/Ring Magazine: 117-112 Marquez
    Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
    Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Marquez
    Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Michael Marley, The Examiner: 115-113 Marquez
    Mike Coppinger, RingTV.com: 115-113 Marquez
    Al Bernstein: 115-113 Marquez
    Wayne McCullough: 115-113 Marquez
    Ryan Maquinana, ***********.com: 116-113 Marquez
    Matt Hamilton, EsNews.com: 116-115 Marquez
    Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Marquez
    Bob Sheridan: 115-114 Marquez
    John Katsilometes, Las Vegas Sun: 115-114 Marquez
    Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com: 117-113 Marquez
    Bill Dwyer, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
    Pedro Fernandez, RingTalk.com: 116-113 Marquez
    Chris Williams, BoxingNews24.com: 117-111 Marquez
    Eric Raskin, TheSweetScience.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Lyle Fitzsimmons, The Sports Network: 116-112 Marquez
    Steve Bunce, BBC: 117-111 Marquez
    Matt Lynch, BoxingToday: 116-112 Marquez
    Chuck Giampa, Retired Boxing Judge: 116-112 Marquez
    Glyn Leach, Boxing Monthly: 115-113 Marquez
    Briggs Seekins, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Marquez
    Oly Goldstein, BadLeftHook.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Johnny Benz, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-111 Marquez
    Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
    George Willis, New York Post: 115-113 Marquez
    Rich Thomas, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Raj Parmar, 3MoreRounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
    Norm Frauenheim, 15Rounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
    Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports: 115-113 Marquez
    James Slater, EastSideBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Nick Tylwalk, BoxingWatchers.com: 115-113 Marquez
    Bob Velin, USAToday: 115-113 Marquez
    Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Marquez
    Igor Guryashkin, ESPN: Marquez by one round
    Brent Brookhouse, SB Nation: 115-113 Marquez
    Will Cooling, FOX Sports/InsideFights: 118-110 Marquez
    Andrew Fruman, The Boxing Bulletin: 116-112 Marquez
    Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 115-113 Marquez
    Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 115-113Marquez
    Dan Ambrose, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian: 117-114 Marquez
    Paul Magno, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
    Jerry Izenberg, Newark Star-Ledger: 115-114 Marquez
    Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
    Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Marquez
    Fox Doucette, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
    Henry Ramirez, Boxing Trainer: 116-113 Marquez
    Thomas Hauser, SecondsOut.com: 116-113 Marquez
    Gerardo Granados, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Marquez
    Robert Guerrero: 116-112 Marquez
    Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
    Graham Shaw, SportingLife.com: 116-113 Marquez
    Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
    Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Draw
    Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
    Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
    Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN/Reuters: 114-114 Draw
    Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
    Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
    george Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
    Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
    Anthony Whitby, BoxingIQ.com: 114-114 Draw
    Jeff Powell, The Daily Mail (UK): 114-114 Draw
    Pace Miller, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
    Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
    Larry Merchant, HBO: 114-114 Draw
    Elie Seckbach, ESNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
    Roy Jones, Jr.: Draw
    Joe Bruiser, FightFan.com: 116-116 Draw
    Michael Wright, ESPNChicago.com: Draw
    Mark Lichtenfeld, Ring Announcer/Member, Ring Magazine Ratings Panel: 114-114 Draw
    Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
    Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 114-114 Draw
    Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
    Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/Inductee, California Boxing Hall of Fame: 115-115 Draw
    ****** Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
    Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 114-114 Draw
    Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
    Gary Andrew Pool, The Atlantic: 114-114 Draw
    Beau Denison, SportsPageMagazine.com: 114-114 Draw
    Daniel Herbert, Boxing News: 114-114 Draw
    Leighton Ginn, Desert Sun (Palm Springs): 114-114 Draw
    Doveed Linder, BoxingTalk.com: 114-114 Draw
    Bob Papa, HBO: 114-114 Draw
    Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
    Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
    Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 114-114 Draw (Note: At the end of his live blog of the fight, he indicated his belief that Marquez had won; however, in his round-by-round, he scored Rounds 1-2, 5-7 and 12 for Marquez and Rounds 3-4 and 8-11 for Pacquiao.)
    Kevin Cunningham, Boxing Trainer: Draw
    Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Will Carroll, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
    Chris Koegler, TheRealHook.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    David Kassel, FightHype.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Rob Rutz, MyBoxingFans.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
    Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Brian Mazique, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Glen Anglin, BoxingNews24.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Skip Bayless, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
    Bill Shimizu, Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Massimo Lopes Pegna, La Gazzetta dello Sport (Italy): 115-114 Pacquiao
    James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    Anthony Lee, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Nick Fors, Pasionsports.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Ronald Geronimo, NowBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Danny Serratelli, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Sean Faye, Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
    Scott Shaffer, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
    Mike Chiari, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Patrick L. Stumberg, SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Jason Peck, EastSideBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
    Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
    Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
    Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Ben Weisman, BoxingAsylum.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
    Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
    Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Madra Uladh, EastSideBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Michael Woods, ESPN/TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
    "Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    Greg Leon, BoxingTalk.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    Steve Marzolf, InsideHBOBoxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
    Darrell La Montre, BoxingTalk.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
    Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
    Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: 115-113 Pacquiao


    Look how many had it for Pac and a draw vs the Bradley fight? Everyone who scored Bradley fight are blind? This was as clear robbery as any.
     
  15. dangerousity

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    WBO 5 judges who rewatched the fight scored it all for Pacquiao:

    I mean, that **** is clear as day. You get 5 judges, all 5, not even 3 but all 5 score it unanimous for Pacquiao, the most popular score being 117-111 for Pac and only one judge going as low as 115-113 for Pac. Yet from the loswest score out of 5 judges, 2 jusges on the night manage to swing 2 more rounds in bradley's favour? Please.