Pac's looking quick as usual

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  1. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Anyone with legs could of gave ODH lateral movement that night. Cotto has a mean left hook to cut the ring off at one side and his own foot work and speed to line up the right. We will see when Cotto cuts the ring off and Pac just does what he always does come forward punching once he is trapped. Lets see if Cotto dont crack him right back in the corner.
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Why do people think Pac is faster than Mosley because of his last 3 fights? Damn, do ya realize how fast Sugar Shane would have looked against guys that came in that slow?

    Cotto knows how to deal with speed. He fought a guy in Mosley who is just as fast, but is also bigger and stronger. He's not going to be totally blinded by the speed like Pac's last 3 opponents.

    Damn, you think he can massacre Cotto or something? If he does, Cotto better give all his boxing equipment to Uncle Roger ASAP!
     
  4. Chessboxer

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    Its not the handspeed per se thats going to give Cotto's fits. Its Manny's footspeed (and angles that it allows him to give) that are going to be the problem for Cotto in my opinion. That's what makes Manny so lethal.

    Cotto may be able to adjust to Manny's handspeed but I don't think he can to Manny's angles and footspeed especially since Cotto usually needs to be have his feet set to punch.
     
  5. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    The point is, Pac was moving and landing punches which is what you've disputed that Pac won't be able to so against Cotto.

    Granted Cotto is no drained De la Hoya and figures to do a much better job at dealing with Pac's speed; however, Cotto is very much hittable and if Pac is not only able to land his sneaky power punches but also get out of distance, it could be a very long and frustrating night for Cotto.

    Getting tagged with hard punches and not landing any of your own can be very demoralizing and an adrenaline buster. I look For Roach and Pac to implore an in-and-out strategy to try to accomplish just that.

    Whether or not it works remains to be seen.
     
  6. Toopretty

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    Marquez was able to handle Pacmans footspeed. He was able to land on Pacman in combination with just about every punch that Cotto throws well especially the left hook. Pacmans lack of footwork, not speed ...will be the reason he gets tagged just as Marquez was able to tag him easily. Pacmans footwork is not good on defense. Pacman vs ODH and Hatton only did not get hit alot. Every other fight he got hit a lot. He will get hit a lot against Cotto.

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    Shitty defense and footwork against a live body.
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

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    a beast ... i'm still routing for Cotto ...

    Pac still has terrible balance and he's not as skilled as Cotto ... I see alot of left hooks to the body ...
     
  8. Beenie

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    The last 2 pages offer no posts that indicate that Mosley is faster than Pac. So where do you get that from? If it from a much earlier post you should have quoted it. No disrespect.


    Pac and Mosley have indeed similar hand speed and Cotto more than proved that he can deal with speed in his fight against him. Pac however offers his speed from the south paw stance which is obviously an opposite look. He also isn't just going to stand in front of Cotto as Mosley arrogantly did.
     
  9. Toopretty

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    And last but not least.. Since when has Pac showed he can fight going backwards?
     
  10. Beenie

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    He's done a better job in recent fights of not going backwards but instead he has moved laterally. If he can limit himself from moving backwards against Cotto then he'll be ok, I think.
     
  11. Toopretty

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    That wont be enough. Quintana could move backwards and laterally and he still got hit. Cotto is not some wild swinging club fighter. The fight they are proposing is a fight that Pac cannot fight successfully or has not shown he could. His style is to be brave and stay in front and run it up the middle. Marquez proved that Pac cannot adapt and only relies on his speed and 1,2. Pac has to lunge in to land, too bad for him he is going to get timed and his ribs whacked.
     
  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl Someone post a Cotto vid for this guy. He's about to break down over here.:lol::|
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PAC has great footwork bro. Anyway you try to spin it, his footwork pretty much sets up his dynamic offense. He's got great speed and his footwork enhances his offense by allowing him to get positioned at different angles to create offense. This comment is accurate.
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shane in his prime was faster than he is now. PAC is in his prime and definitley is faster than this version of Shane. You're right...Cotto does know how to deal with speed, but he still has problems with guys who are fast....Shane and Zab are good indicators of this. he struggled with Zab's speed and Shane's. Shane is smarter than Zab and more experienced and was able to beat Cotto in my opinion, but Cotto got the nod that night which was fine. It was very close. Cotto will have many problems with PAC's speed and movement. It will be a difficult fight for Cotto and I predict a difficult early going for PAC.
     
  15. ABN3R

    ABN3R ¡Acho! A mi plín Full Member

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    i want to see how quit pac is going to move when cotto hit him with a body:bbb shot.