Pac's only stylistic weakness - Mexican warriors

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  1. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    I saw him frustrated the most against Agapito Sanchez. He should watch out for those pesky Dominicans. :yep
     
  2. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, actually it's called having a pair of balls and testing yourself. However, I can't really blame Phoney Boy Mayweather. None of his nuthuggers know who last gargled his balls.
     
  3. brood3

    brood3 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh really than what about Mosley, Hagler, Lamotta, Tyson, Joe Louis, Dempsey, Marciano, Mancini, Joe Frazier, Holyfield, and Pryor?

    All these guys were either black or American, they weren't traditional boxers/movers.

    All their styles were very quick and aggressive. You seem to be basting it on race. Not all American fighters were an Ali or Sugar.
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont think that Manny has improved that much, I think that he is stronger for not having to cut that much weight. Manny actaully has looked faster and stonger since making his move to 140 and above, couple that with the fact that he has fought a bum in Diaz two weight drained fighters in Oscar and Cotto, and Hatton.

    But the style that gives Manny problems is counter-punchers, Roach knows this and its the reason that he hasnt faced many counter-punchers, and the reason that Manny once said on ESPN FNF that Floyd would be a tough fight for manny to win because Floyd would make Manny walk to him and wait for him to make mistakes
     
  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Why type all that? All you do is talk **** about anyone that isn't black. It's sad.
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Hey thats racist
     
  7. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he beat them all
    what are you smoking?
     
  8. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    People really exaggerate the styles when it comes to fighters and their backgrounds. Mexicans have the stereotype of being aggressive, give two to take one, left hook to the body type guys, but that's exaggerated too. Chavez could box effectively when he needed to, and rolled with shots well. Barrera always had technical boxing skills, he just used it more as he got older. Morales had boxing skills too, he was just brawl happy (like a smaller Holyfield). Sanchez was a clever counter-puncher, and Canto wasn't much of a puncher.

    I'd actually put Louis and Hagler more in the fighting category with Leonard than the other guys. Louis was a patient stalker, sometimes he moved forward, sometimes back or to the side, to try to get the opponent at the right distance and try to trick him. Hagler was primarily a boxer-puncher with good lateral movement, and Leonard was a usually flat-footed boxer who used side to side movement, with the Duran rematch and Hagler fights being exceptions.

    Really when you think about it, the number of great black American fighters who were movers and dancers is not very high.
     
  9. strongarm

    strongarm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both of you guys have a good point. But to a certain extent, us Mexicans are trained to apply tremendous pressure. It is more complex than just race though. A good example is Chavez. E. Steward said that he was really surprised how well Chavez boxed, he even asked him why he abandons that style during fights. Chavez replied by saying that he was too slow to box against fighters like Camacho and Taylor. My point is that traditionally, Mexicans are too slow to adapt to the styles the Leonards and Mayweathers use. Think about it, being generally slower and in some cases shorter, does not translate to a dominant jab, hence the so called "mexican style." It is not isolated to just Mexicans though, but look at the list you mentioned, most were either slower or smaller than their opposition.
     
  10. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Maybe . . . ironically Pac made a name for himself beating Mexican warriors.

    He took the risks.:deal
     
  11. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Morales beat him and so did Marquez last time he just didn't get the credit for it.
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why is that??? Just because Im not fighting you for a spot to put my mouth on Pac nutsack???
     
  13. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  14. brood3

    brood3 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You said two weight drained fighters but you put down three names after it. Looks like you just lost all credibility in one sentence.:lol:

    You have no clue about the sport of boxing. Keep crying and whining it will get you far in life.:lol:
     
  15. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    pac's weakness would be a mayweather.