Pacs punching power is a myth

to be honest i can see the thread starters point, i do think most of the danger from pacs punches come from his speed and angles, not as much from the actual power behind that shot (as opposed to say, a trinidad or foreman punch, who has that 'it' behind it)

that being said.... anyone being logical can see Pac has got power.... hell you could watch him just hitting the mitts with Freddy and tell that there is power behind his shots.

Pac has got major league power.... i dont see how anyone can deny that. But at the same time, i dont think its as much just plain power as much as i think its speed, timing and angles..... but so what?

 

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wattup Doby :good Ya i dont quite understand that aspect.... hes on his own there, but what im saying, just personally (and i can understand those who dont agree) is although Pac has very good power, i think a lot of what looks to be concussive power is a potent mix of angles, timing and speed.

For example.... i think Mosley, punch for punch, just might hit harder then Pac, but.... i dont think Mosley could get a lot of the knockdowns that Pac gets because he doesnt strike at with the combined mix of angles, good timing, and with quite as much speed as Pac....

But the reason I say 'so what' at the end of my post is..... so what? lol....

So pac gets his knock downs from a lethal mix of speed, angles, timing and power..... and this is held against him?

the thread starter is saying that pacs power isnt as great as its made out to be because a lot of the people he knocks down get back up.... lol. Sorry, but if timing and speed were all you needed to knock someone down, Mayweather would be knocking fools down all over the place, you still have to have that 'it' factor behind your punch to do the things Pac does.... anyone who cant accept that has some sort of agenda IMO. And trying to cite lack of power through knockdowns is a bit of a losing battle lol.

But, the thing i can see what hes saying is just that i personally feel a lot of the danger in pacs punches come from timing, accumiliation, and speed.... not so much that 'classic power' (like jackson, foreman, chiquita gonzalez, ect, ect)

but again.... so what? So pac has speed, accumilation, angles and timing, that he has developed in order to help his power.... doesnt mean he also doesnt have very real power.

The other thing hes saying is that most of Pacs knockdowns, they get back up. Meaning that hes usually not knocking people out cold.... In fact i think thats his co main argument, is that pac doesnt have as good of power as everyone thinks because besides a fight here or there, hes generally not knocking people out cold.

I can see what hes saying but i dont know... how many big punchers below 154lbs continuassly put good competition OUT? And is THAT ones criteria for being a great puncher?

again, i sense an agenda here obviously.... because pac is a very good, very, very good puncher. wether it comes from just that classic, natural power or a mix of angles, timing and speed.... it doesnt really matter when your opponents continue finding themselves on the canvas. As for him not knocking a lot of his opponents OUT... not many people are going to spark jmm, cotto, hoya, morales, or mab. Since Pac has reached his peak he has been fighting almost complete elite or top tier fighters, so its natural that he doesnt have a lot of 'out cold' scenarios.... also, as hes gotten better and a harder puncher, hes also facing bigger opponents who are more likely to absorb his one hitter quitter punches.... so theres a lot of factors here.

that being said, i cant believe i just typed so damn much on a subject questioning pacs power lol. atsch

Pac has power, period....

 

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