Pac's skills exposed in video, dont be afraid cause of begining, it has great points

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...against them. The whole point is that his sloppiness will be punished by someone with the skill and timing of a PBF. Good enough to get the job done...until it isn't.
     
  2. amazingbulldog

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  3. pejevan

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    This is where I entirely agree with you.


    TBH, Pac misses a lot of punches and he is sloppy.

    Against Mosley, Pac actually missed 173 punches out of 353 power punches he threw. That is awful lot of punches to miss. His connect rate is a mediocre 50 per cent.


    Against a punching bag margarito, he even missed a bigger number of punches. He actually did not connect 301 times out of his 713 power punches. He jsut hit margarito with 411 power punches, considering that Margarito is a human punching bag.


    Against Cotto, that is another all time low and pitiful number. He actually missed 284 power punches, connecting only a laughable 276 power punches. His connect rate is a abysmal 49 per cent.


    And his bout with hatton? That was shockingly horrible. Out of 105 power punches, he was only able to connect 65 for a ridiculously low rate of 62 per cent.


    Aaginst the master of turtle shell, joshua Clottey, Pac performed much worse. Out of his 682 power punches, he only connected 232.




    And BTW, Pac does not jab. His jab rate is well below the welterweight average.

    Against Mosley, he only jabbed 274 times. Against the human punching bag, he flicked his jab 356 times the entire 12 rounds.

    Aaginst Cotto, he just threw a very lazy 220 jabs. Hatton? An even lazier 22. Now, Clottey, he actually threw 549 jabs.

    against the weight-drained Dela Hoya, Pac only connected 195 times out of 333 power punches. That is a ****ingly low 58 per cent.



    Compare this with the real ATG, Floyd mayweather. Those numbers sucks.


    Mayweather against Mosley connected 123 times against a very willing, more prime, not weight drained Msoley. That is out of 267 punches or 46 per cent. He jabbed 210 times, but most of those are intelligent jabs.

    Aaginst Hatton, Mayweather actually threw a spectacular 257 power punches and landed 100 for a very much greater 46 per cnet connect rate.

    Again, against a more prime, not weight drained Dela Hoay, mayweather was able to connect a mind-boggling, eye-opening 138 out of 241 power punches.

    Despite what some *******s are claiming, Mayweather's pucnh connect has more quality to it. His actual numbers and percentage may somewhat be lower than pac in the power punch department but every Mayweather power punch counts, unlike that of Pac which is SLOPPY. Pac's actual connect number is sometimes the entire number of powerpunch that Mayweather threw but this is compubox abberation. Example, Mayweather threw 241 power punch against Hoya, while Pac hit Cotto with 276 powerpunches. Do not believe compubox, it sucks. Besides, Mayweather's power punch is heavier, and more powerful and if they will fight, they will not be fighting with powerpunches. Instead, you expect a jabbing contests.
     
  4. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The video makes good points, but it's nothing any rational fan didn't already know. Only the guys who claim Pacquiao has improved so drastically to the point where he's one of the best technical fighters in the world.:lol:

    He's always been more of a physical demon than anything, and he's honed his style around that. As such, there are many fighters throughout history that would've out-boxed (or stopped) him from 126-147. Some of the guys I'd favour over him wouldn't even be considered "greats", just bad styles match-ups. That said, he would also hold his own against a variety of styles and fighters, many of them greats or borderline greats.
     
  5. MetalLicker

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    You know, you can take any fight, show only the missed punches and make any fighter look bad...even the greatest fighters in history.
     
  6. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    If Pac's skill set is so paltry when it comes to movement, so exposed and limited, why in god's name did I have to listen to Jean Pascal scream "take dee tess!" for the first minute of the video? What the **** does taking a test for PEDs have to do with Pac being unable to handle movement?
     
  7. Vsec

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    that song was annoying lol. so pac makes technical mistakes during his relentless flurries. no ****. the problem is his speed and volume.
     
  8. Guybino

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    lol
     
  9. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    i agree take the test. but wtf using the cotto fight to bring manny down? so wat if he missed a cpl of ugly combos, he made cotto ****.

    video is **** and should be burnt.
     
  10. horst

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    The whole premise of the video is idiotic.

    Pacquiao won every round against Mosley, and knocked him down.

    Mosley's combination of terror, survival tactics, and a good chin made for a real stinker of a fight.

    But Pac still dropped a guy who never really gets dropped, and won very dominantly and easily.

    Just because a fight is not entertaining doesn't mean that some flaw is exposed in the victor, some styles just don't produce thrillers, but this fight did produce a clear, clear, emphatic winner.


    For me, Mayweather has looked distinctly unimpressive in his fights with the two best opponents he has ever faced - Jose Luis Castillo and Oscar De La Hoya. And both guys managed to make Floyd underwhelm simply by using intelligent pressure.

    Pacquiao can do the same, but he has more power and skills than Castillo and more stamina than Oscar.

    :smoke
     
  11. Ringnut

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    it's worth noting that Pac is usually this reckless and sloppy when he knows that he's winning and that he's way ahead. he was not as reckless during the 2nd Marquez fight, since he knew it was a close fight. i mean he was still a bit reckless and sloppy at points but no where near what the video suggests.
     
  12. Jetmax

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    The video actually made me realized how reckless Pacquiao can get if he really wants to pursue his opponent. He'll trade missed shots, be off balanced, risk being out of position to get a chance to land his shots. That is his style. A lot of elite athletes doesn't have all textbook skills. Sometimes winning on top of having flaws is what makes them great.
     
  13. agila2004a

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    if pac knows that knows that his opponent has power to hurt he will not be as reckless. i dont remember him being reckless with oscar, because he knew that oscar's left is there to hit him if he did not follow the gameplan. when mosley started running, he did not go all-out still wary of shane's power. but if your feather fisted, pac would gladly give you a free shot, lol. i'll take your shot, now take mine,.....
     
  14. pejevan

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    That is a very objsective video. Well researched and comprehensive.

    TBH, Pac misses a lot of punches.

    Against Mosley, Pac actually missed 173 punches out of 353 power punches he threw. That is awful lot of punches to miss. His connect rate is a mediocre 50 per cent.

    Against a punching bag margarito, he even missed a bigger number of punches. He actually did not connect 301 times out of his 713 power punches. He jsut hit margarito with 411 power punches, considering that Margarito is a human punching bag.

    Against Cotto, that is another all time low and pitiful number. He actually missed 284 power punches, connecting only a laughable 276 power punches. His connect rate is a abysmal 49 per cent.

    And his bout with hatton? That was shockingly horrible. Out of 105 power punches, he was only able to connect 65 for a ridiculously low rate of 62 per cent.

    Aaginst the master of turtle shell, joshua Clottey, Pac performed much worse. Out of his 682 power punches, he only connected 232.


    And BTW, Pac does not jab. His jab rate is well below the welterweight average.

    Against Mosley, he onlu jabbed 274 times. Aagainst the human punching bag, he flicked his jab 356 times the entire 12 rounds.

    Aaginst Cotto, he just threw a very lazy 220 jabs. Hatton? An even lazier 22. Now, Clottey, he actually threw 549 jabs.

    against the weight-drained Dela Hoya, Pac only connected 195 times out of 333 power punches. That is a ****ingly low 58 per cent.



    Compare this with the real ATG, Floyd mayweather. Those numbers sucks.


    Mayweather against Mosley connected 123 times against a very willing, more prime, not weight drained Msoley. That is out of 267 punches or 46 per cent. He jabbed 210 times, but most of those are intelligent jabs.

    Aaginst Hatton, Mayweather actually threw a spectacular 257 power punches and landed 100 for a very much greater 46 per cnet connect rate.

    Again, against a more prime, not weight drained Dela Hoay, mayweather was able to connect a mind-boggling, eye-opening 138 out of 241 power punches.

    Despite what some *******s are claiming, Mayweather's pucnh connect has more quality to it. His actual numbers and percentage may somewhat be lower than pac is the power punch department but every Mayweather power punch counts, unlike that of Pac. Pac's actual connect number is sometimes the entire number of powerpunch that Mayweather threw. Example, Mayweather threw 241 power punch against Hoya, while Pac hit Cotto with 276 powerpunches. But do not believe compubox, it sucks. Besides, Mayweather's power punch is heavier, and more powerful and they will not be fighting with powerpunches. Instead, you expect a jabbing contests.
     
  15. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    wow, what a load of ***** drivel lol, especially when it's blatantly subjective from the out set.