***PAC's statement on Floyd's demand****

Wow you sounded so sure about this statement that you could only be either an imbecile or a bigger imbecile.

Of course it can weaken you. If not physically, then psychologically. There are even people who faints at the sight of blood.

 

...this is boxing not baseball, basketball or other kid sports...you put your life inside the ring...and if in your mind that getting blood from you weakens you....it is what it is.......and pac feels that....he knows that it will affect his performance..... and every fighter has the right to be at their best during fights.....because they may never walk out of it alive.....

 

*****s will never ever see it this way...EVER!

 

whether it does or dosent- if pac thinks it does- it does. its like women before a fight- htere is not scientific evidence to prove that having sex weakens you before a fight. in fact testosterone rises after sex- but still- people dont do it. the same with manny and having his blood drawn- the last time he did- he lost to morales- i think he s been strict about not drawing blood soon before a fight since then.

 

Do you have any idea how absurd this sounds, Patsys?

Once again, world class athletes (isn't Manny a world class athlete?) such as Olympians may randomly get tested and have blood drawn before an event then go out and set all kinds of world records the same day. So please explain how could Manny suffer the ill effects of a psychological catastrophe? C'mon Patsys think!

You're pushing nothing more than red herring and bull**** excuses to salvage Manny's apparent reluctance to get tested randomly.

 

for a second there i thought you would say " this is boxing, not baseball, basketball or other kid sports..boxers shed blood in the ring regardless. your job is to hurt the opponent. If you believe that a few milliliters of blood removed(same amount removed from floyd)is gonna weaken him? i highly doubt that. this is the biggest matchup in the history of boxing, and one fighter doesnt want blood extracted from him close to fight night, where he can make an estimated 40 million. thats fishy. why? you beat people up for a living, yet you feel a needle will weaken you? or prevent you from performing at your steroid using best, which is it? honestly i never thought pac was ever using peds but all he has to do is agree and prove the whole world wrong. he can make floyd look like a complete moron by subjecting himself to whatever tests and coming out clean. instead hes gonna sue and taint his entire legacy. nice.

 

There's such a thing as psychological reaction. And no, i dont agree that Floyd tainting the entire credibility of Boxing is going to be a stain against Pac. It'll be recalled as a bratty request by Floyd as a way out of the fight.

Baseless accusations are not tolerated even outside the sport.

 

He's not willing to take RANDOM blood tests all the way up until the fight, and the fact that he wants to dictate when the tests will be performed is suspect to all but those who are completely blinded by their love for his nuts.

 

All = Those in favor of Floyd not fighting Pac because of his dad's baseless accusations and his hesitation to getting his first L- 1

Its not Pac whose trying to dictate on something. Its Floyd trying to change Boxing.

 

What you don't think any athlete, Olympic or otherwise feels they are weakened by having blood drawn. When you have to submit, as in the case of the olympics, then you do because those are the rules. Though I bet you any number of those athletes would refuse the test if it wasn't the rules that they have to take them that close to the fight.

Just because people break records doesn't mean they are performing at their best I mean look at Usain Bolt in the 100m at Beijing he shattered the record yet it was clear he coasted the last 20m so obviously wasn't performing his best.

 

I completely understand your point, but obviously both fighters are trying to gain a mental edge on their opponent, and floyd has won the mental battle. mind>matter. floyd won this 'fight' already. regardless if this fight happens or not, pacmans legacy will forever be tainted if he doesnt just subject himself to the same random tests floyd will be subjected to. people will always look back and say, "this was potentially the biggest fight ever and it didnt happen because ONE man did not want to give blood for a 40 million dollar payday..hmmm i wonder WHY?" is it because he did not want to give in to floyds demands or does he really have something to hide(being that he refuses to give blood close to the fight)

at the end of the day, the way i see these negotiations are like that of a poker game. pac raised when he said "10 million dollar penalty for every pound over 147. floyd said greatt i call ur bluff n i raise u. random olympic style drug testing for the both of us. pac folds. pac found the ultra way out of this fight. SUE!

 

It's Manny and Bob Arum coming up with bull**** excuses why they don't want the best random testing available....And I'd love to see this fight, so you're dead wrong.

 

Here's some of my input on this situation.

1. This whole steriod issue is ******ed and will ultimately dim the spotlight on boxing. As a boxer and fan, I'm saddened that it has come to the point where professional boxers are accused of steroid use. I understand that some boxers may have used steroids and may still use them now. Everytime a boxer is caught or accused of using illegal substances (including handwraps, PEDs, etc) it is detrimental to the sport of boxing. It hasn't become a major issue until it was associated with boxing's two biggest faces - Floyd and Pac. Will fans, casual or hardcore, start to question every good fighter now? Pac is being questioned because of his ability ascend to higher weight classes while keeping his speed and power. But haven't fans considered this is Pac's main asset? Will people question Paul Williams whether he is on PEDs now because of his ability to throw more than a thousand punches per fight on a consistent basis? Regardless of whether these boxers are clean or not, it is the principle of accusing boxers just because they are achieving great things that will hurt boxing. Until they are caught redhanded, show these professionals some respect. Finally, having words like steroids, olympic drug-testing, etc. associated with perhaps the most anticipated bout of the decade and modern boxing's masterpiece on frontpage of Yahoo!, and ESPN, does more harm than hype the fight/boxing.

2. Think of it this way. You work at a top-tier financial firm. You're getting paid very well because you're putting in 70 hours/week, which reflects your performance. One day one of your co-workers, essentially a competitor who wants to be the top dog in the firm, accuses you of cheating and profiting based on illegal insider information. The word gets around in your firm and by then, you are now suspected of cheating by your management, other co-workers, and other potential employers. Your 'worth' has considerably dropped because of the negative accusations against you. You are now subject to have your portfolios, analyst reports, and spreadsheets randomly checked. You know that you have done nothing wrong and your performance is the result of hardwork and sacrifice. However, due to this one accusation from a fellow cut-throat employee, having your peers and management breathe down your neck 24/7, you decide it will affect your overall performance in the long-run stemming from unnecessary pressures and stress (meaning you're going to be fired anyways for performing sub-par). Thus, you opt out of 'redeeming' your integrity through random checks and quit your job.

I give you this analogy because I know most of you guys aren't boxers or in Manny's shoes. But this analogy could apply to some of us who are employed. And this analogy can be applied within any industry, not just finance. I think most of us would say, "**** you," if people were accusing you of cheating on the one thing you put 100% effort into regardless how much you are getting paid. No amount of money can buy your pride. And of course, this is all assuming Manny isn't cheating which I thoroughly believe. If he is, I'd be very disappointed with Roach and Pac.

3. Steriods, PEDs, HGH, silverback blood or whatever, I believe has little effect in boxing. At the end of the day, if you're going up against an opponent who is smarter and more technically skilled than you, you are going to get outclassed. If he can't knock you out because you're so juiced up, he'll outclass you for 12 rounds. Yeah, if you have two B class fighters going up against eachother, these illegal drugs may give one an advantage, but I really doubt it will give that much of an edge fighting against top level fighters like Pac and Floyd.

Final thoughts: Unless Pac works on his ability to set traps, counter jabs, and box smart, he'll get outclassed by Floyd whether Pac is on juice or not. Will we ever find out? Unless the media and fans stop hyping up this Pac = cheater bull****, I doubt the fight will happen especially if Floyd's team is getting sued. Why the **** would you want to be 'business partners' in a muti-million dollar deal if your partner sued you?

 

You haven't got a ****ing clue what you're talking about.
As someone who's Uncle worked for the BOA I can tell you for fact Olympians NEVER get blood tests on the day prior to their event, after yes, before no.

Please stop passing off your knowledge as fact when it's bull**** you've produced from thin air.

 

you are a dumbass straight up...