Pad Holding: Mayweather, Freddie Roach or Someone else?

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  1. h2hkiller

    h2hkiller Guest

    Which style do you prefer?

    I love Mayweather's style of padholding, but I feel that it tends to make the fighter too used to the rhythm, and doesn't allow him to experience other situations.

    Freddie seems to focus on basics and angles, not so much repetitiive motion like Mayweather.

    I've seen Brendan Ingle with Naseem, and he seems to be the same as Freddie; focus on combinations and angles.

    Who else do you like for pad holding?
     
  2. JMP

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    Roach - incorporating functional combos, footwork, angles, defense, body work, etc.
     
  3. MikeBison

    MikeBison New Member Full Member

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    cus, or teddy or kevin or whoever was trainin tyson to bob and weave. he was specifically trainined to deal with taller, longer reached, opponents and would slip right inside wlad and unleash my favourite combo. right hook to body, right uppercut
     
  4. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually it's more about possible combinations that can be of use out of the philly shell, whilst blocking or parrying a punch. It develops rhythm, reflexes, speed, and muscle memory when it comes to reactions after blocking or feinting blows.

    Block a straight right and counter with your own and left hook to the body...possibly even the uppercut.

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  5. JMP

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  6. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whatever works.
     
  7. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    I think Mayweather's padwork might be great for training reflexes, to be able to "see" a split second opening on an opponent's offensive barrage, and pull off a quick counter shot inside.

    the muscle memory and the repitition's so strong that the punch you throw is almost a reflex action.
     
  8. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's the point of his drills. But the problem is that you become so used to what you know out of that when you have someone study your "reflexes" they can be worked around because they know what punches to expect. Whereas you have someone like Roach who has no real development of anything in his mittwork other than a strategic approach to how to attack an upcoming opponent.

    So I'd say fundamentally Mayweather is great. But for preparation of a upcoming bout, I'd say Roach is better.

    The one guy who mentioned D'Amato made a GREAT point. He was great mittwork guy himself. That whole Bob and Weave technique is pretty much ****in' dead in today's boxing world. You don't see it too much anymore ever since people are taking a liking to the up-jab to the body or the Ricky Hatton hook (in which quickly closing the distance before someone can come up with a jab to stop you)
     
  9. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    I can kinda remember an early Tyson fight where his corner was giving him advise in between rounds. It was a number combination that they were telling him. Not "Hey Mike, throw a double jab and then follow with a right cross."

    It was like "2-3-1-1" or something like that. They seem to have memorized dozens of different punching combinations during training camp.

    It was really long ago, and I can still kinda remember it.
     
  10. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watching this **** makes you seriously believe that a prime Tyson would murder the Klit Bros AND all the great 70's HWs (Ali, Foreman, Frazier)


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