Paddy Fitz - This needs legal resolution

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by R-Duran, Nov 24, 2013.


  1. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Time to take action on this outrageous and ludicrousness decisions happening in Boxing. I agree with Fitz, something needs to be done.

    This is happening week in - week out. And it just falls away after a weeks, its all forgotten about until the same result happens again.

    We shouldn't have to put up with this corruption and nonsense. Boxing is getting worse and worse with this bull****. Hold these people accountable for once. The judging was unbelievable as well.

    SORT IT OUT
     
  2. Papa_Bear

    Papa_Bear Active Member Full Member

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    He's spot on. It's about time somebody in the public eye started banging on about this issue of premature stoppages by British referees. It's not not just last night, this **** is happening ALL the time. It should have been treated as a major major problem since a long time ago.

    Yet before now Sky's pundits nor anyone else with a platform have had boo to a goose to say about it. It's only because last nights injustice was enacted in a huge fight against a British fighter that any fuss is being made at all. I'd like to think that this will be recognised as a wider issue and that the folks that matter will be more conscious of it in future. However far more likely I suspect is that it will be portrayed as a one off ("best officials in the world.....blah blah") and come the next johnny foreigner this happens to on SKY we'll hear the usual "fighters health comes first" bollocks. FFS, that excuse sure wears thin.

    If these stoppages were occurring as regularly in the US as they are here then the media folk over there would be going absolutely ape**** about it. Think of all the classic fights over the past 10 years (Pac-JMM 1, Ward-Gatti, Corrales-Castillo, etc etc) that would have been scuppered had they occurred in a British ring. These corrupt shitty refs are ruining the sport.
     
  3. Papa_Bear

    Papa_Bear Active Member Full Member

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    Bang on, yet unfortunately there's not much we can do about it. It's the mainstream boxing media in this country that need to kick up a big fuss and make an issue of this if anything is to change. They're the ones with the platform, they're the ones who can highlight this. Instead though SKY and most of the rest continue to defend these disgraceful calls and play them off as reasonable officiating. I'd like to think that last night will herald the start of a change in tack but it won't. It'll be portrayed as a one off.
     
  4. moorser

    moorser Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know it was a bad stoppage maybe the events of previous months were a high number of fighters have died or fell into a coma, I doubt it though as its not an isolated incident.
     
  5. YearZero

    YearZero Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Until this issue is resolved BBBoC should implement mandatory standing 8 counts.

    In fact I think boxing needs to return to a mandatory standing 8 count.

    No referee should be able to just wave a fight off when he feels like it without giving an 8 count he might be misinterpreting the situation or worse, paid off.

    Just a hypothetical suggestion but could you possibly have a system where after the standing 8, if the ref wants to stop the fight, that he needs the vote of an additional independent designated person to confirm that the fighter isn't able to continue before waving it off? Similar in a way to the role ring physicians play when checking for cuts except the position should be under greater scrutiny.

    It could provide that extra protection to stop these kneejerk/paid off stoppages.
     
  6. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Do you mean Fast Eddie?
     
  7. R-Duran

    R-Duran Active Member Full Member

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  8. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    British referees are the worst in the world.
     
  9. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    agree on the standing 8, although i don't think groves even needed 1 of those last night. would it be scored as a knockdown, as in 10-8?

    disagree on another opinion on a stoppage after the 8, it gives unfair recovery time to the fighter in trouble.
     
  10. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    Boxing is a complete disgrace worldwide. How is it possible that general hardcore fans can score a fight properly and know when a fight should be legitimately stopped but the PAID officials/referees who do it as a job/career can't ? It's amazing that the sport of boxing has any fans left these days.
     
  11. YearZero

    YearZero Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah it would have had to be a 10 - 8 round.
    Sure groves didn't need it but rather a standing 8 than him losing the fight unfairly. If he thought he was in danger he would've taken a knee.

    The extra man I envisage would have to confirm the stoppage over an earpiece worn by the ref immediately after the count finished.

    That's another thing, refs should wear earpieces so a 2nd "TV" umpire if you will can feed them info, in select occasions in determining whether a knockdown was legitimate, fouling, headbutt, cuts etc.

    It is time for boxing to move out of the dark ages.
     
  12. caligula4

    caligula4 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why was there a British referee in a World title fight involving two British fighters anyway? Should be a neutral referee from elsewhere, in any World title fight.
     
  13. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Excellent points being made here...this just cant be allowed to stand.
     
  14. spurs ben316

    spurs ben316 Active Member Full Member

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    Paddy comes across really well from the interviews post fight. Don't think he will be 2 happy when he hears about Howard putting a like on his mates tip for froch win round 9. My jaw dropped when I was shown that earlier.
     
  15. dreadlockno1

    dreadlockno1 Member Full Member

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    Where is this? Facebook?........link or screen shot?