Panama vs Puerto Rico - Which Country is Best in Boxing ?

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both very small with a small population.... but both produced many great fighters...

    Duran, Laguna, Panama Al Brown, Ernesto Marcel, Eusebio Pedroza...
    Ortiz, Trinidad, Gomez, Cotto, Benitez, Rosario....

    You gotta pick one, gun to your head... tell me which one..
     
  2. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's interesting that with Gomez at least, you could make an argument that he was a product of both. In a bio I read of him, he credits being sent to live and train in Panama early in his career with rounding out his style and making him a more complete fighter.

    If the consensus best Puerto Rican fighter ever gets an assist like that from Panama, then maybe, just maybe.......
     
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  3. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I firmly believe Panama is above Puerto Rico overall speaking, I made this thread to see if I am way off.
     
  4. ikrasevic

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  5. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Puerto Rico disqualified in the third round for masquerading as a country.

    If it were one, it’d get my vote, though.
     
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    lol

    But seriously, I wouldn´t pick not one of the puerto ricans before I had picked one of the great panamanians....
     
  7. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Puerto Rico because I am one and racist.

    I'm kidding of course. Panama Joe Gans should be included imo.
     
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  8. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quantity over quality in this case IMO.
     
  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m no expert on this part of the world, but wouldn’t they be the same race?
     
  10. ChrisJS

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    Overall, it’s Puerto Rico. If you look at the quantity and different eras etc; Sure, Panama has the greater fighter, but a top five is almost certainly four Puerto Ricans. A top 10 might be closer, something like 5-5, but a top 20, probably like 14-6.
     
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  11. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    I agree about the top 20. But not the top 5.

    Duran x Ortiz
    Panama Al Brown x Gomez - Al Brown all day, to me
    Laguna x Trinidad - close, Trinidad but... I could go with Laguna just as easily, maybe it is me underrating Trinidad...
    Pedroza x Rosario - Pedroza
    Marcel x Benitez - this is close, but I believe I would go with Marcel...
     
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  12. GlaukosTheHammer

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    :lol: I'm gonna just go ahead and try to make this response as intellectually interesting as I can because the juxtaposition of the response to prompt tickles me.



    Semantics strictly depends on who you ask. The world can't agree on continents let alone races. Interestingly, these differences in academia are drawn by linguistics rather than fact. As in no one argues skin tones change or topography is different, just what they should be called and classified under.

    That said, yeah, discrimination based on ethnicity is generally considered racism bud. It was meant to be a joke so ... xenophobia works there too but really I was joking about racial differences not national.

    For example, you ever met a huge Mexican? You ever met a tiny Mexican? They're both Mexicans but the Aztecs are tall and wide while the Maya are short and skinny. I am neither but if I was Maya making fun of Azteca for being fat it'd be racial not cultural nor nationalistic.

    Are "en Dios" one race from north to south America while all other racial divisions are found exclusively in the old world?

    Really no wrong answer, but I think when asked like that it does put the absurdity of calling "native" a race into focus.

    In the south, where the Latin Empire colonized, when it was done the Spanish academia relabeled the inhabitants as descents of Latins.

    In the north, where the British Empire colonized, when they got done and it was time for their academic relabeling the new nation there also chose to strip all native identity of the brand and call them American.
     
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  13. Saintpat

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    Wilfred isn’t No. 1 in PR and he beat Duran, who is certainly No. 1 in Panama.

    It wasn’t even particularly competitive.

    Case closed.
     
  14. Totentanz.

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    Duran was obviously weight drained for that fight, just look at how sluggish he was- If we're rating these men overall, then we can't simply go "Benitez beat Duran...", if nothing else, you have to take into account that the same Ray Leonard that Benitez lost to, Duran beat.
     
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  15. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    The "mexican aztecs" you speak of are mostly from Spain ancestry, more or less, though.....