Paquiao now takes his place among the pound for pound greats of history

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by janitor, Dec 7, 2008.


  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    You saw it happen gentlemen.

    I jokingly suggested before the fight that if Paquiao won this would be like Barbados Joe Walcott destroying Joe Choynski and there turned out to be a few paralels.
     
  2. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny is a great FIGHTER....no dancing..no shuffles..no waving to the crowd...the man is
    a great fighter!!!
     
  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was Choynski a washed up,old super-rich promoter/part-time fighter?

    Seriously I don't know the circumstances surrounding Walcott-Choynski but Oscar looked ****ing terrible today.

    No knock on Manny who's already proven himself to be a modern great but Oscar looked to be a shell of the husk of the endosperm of the fighter he used to be.Manny still deserves full kudo's for the jump in weight and win against the bigger fighter but I was aghast at how poor and lacking in mettle De La Hoya was today.
     
  4. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't see the fight,damn. But read the blow by blow over in general. Was De La Hoya that shot?
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    As Sarah Palin would say, "You Betcha"!
     
  6. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've been saying for ages Oscar has become a hack and a conman, constantly putting himself into undeserving "superfights" that **** up the deserving active contenders in the division.He's totally finished and it seemed moving back down to Welter did him no favours eihter.

    Loved this fight.Great performance by PAc, but Oscar should have retired years ago.
     
  7. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Um, I think you'll find he already is there AND had a reserved seat years ago.
     
  8. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put into historical perspective, I don't think this win is as big an accomplishment as many are hyping it up to be. Still a great win, but I wasn't surprised.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    oscar was shocking i think he must have had trouble with the weight

    but saying that pac deserves full credit like oscar said

    pac fought a great fight and won but it was sad to see oscar take a beating he should retire

    is this the best victory a small lightweight coming up to welter and beating the best light middle at welter
     
  10. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post. DLH looked awful last night. Of course Pacquaio had a lot to do with that but DLH looked ripe for the picking and Pacquaio was the right guy with the right style to do so. It was obviously a big win for Pacquaio but I think over time his win over Barrera 1 and his Marquez victory may be viewed as better wins.

    I thought DLH would beat a game Pacquaio so to see what happened last night was a bit shocking. I almost felt sorry for DLH who I thought was simply going to turn his back and quit in the middle of the ring on more than one occasion. Pacquaio was already a great before last night and this will help make him more of a superstar. But when the dust settles from this it will be seen as a great, smaller, prime guy viciously destroying a bigger, shot, former great.

    Still, great for Pacquaio and his fans he proved a lot of people wrong. I'm really interested in what Pacquaio does next. I've become a big admirer of him and the fact he is constantly facing big challenges is one of those reasons. I hope he gets around to fighting Hatton, Mayweather, Cotto, Marquez 3, Juan Diaz, Mosley and a couple others but I'll settle for even a few of those. As for DLH, yeah he should consider retiring but I actually hope he sticks around for one more fight-carefully picked though. I hate to see him go out like that. A loss would have been one thing but a public flogging is something different.
     
  11. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks Red.
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    rakelie ok i exaggerated abit but oscar is still in the top 5 light middles
     
  13. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Oscar is clearly shot, he's nowhere near a top 5 LMW. Not to mention the drop down to WW effected him even more.

    People really need to put this into perspective. He couldn't even conclusively beat the elite fighters at his prime weight, and you think he'll be beating the elites from 147-154?
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    Williams - yep in his prime
    Dzinderuk - probably but largely untested
    Forrest - lost to Mayorga twice who Delahoya decapited 2 1/2 years ago. Prob better than Oscar now
    Martinez - unproven
    Alcine - unproven and bombed out by Santos, who was schooled to Dzinderuk
    Spinks - arguably lost to Mayorga aswell as Judah and fought a close 1 with:
    Phillips - old journeyman