Paquiao vs Hatton

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jnuns21, Feb 20, 2008.


  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have no bragging rights PacD. As far as I am concerned, the last time you and I openly debated the outcome of a fight, you were WRONG, and I told you verbatum why you would be wrong. Remember? Guzman vs Soto, when you said Soto was bigger and stronger and would hit Guzman all night with his right hand, and I told you that Guzman was actually stronger and had too much upper body movement and would close the gap and actually win the fight on the inside because of his handspeed and footspeed? How did that fight turn out? So yeah....don't talk to me about your bragging rights.

    And you didn't answer any of my questions or counter my analysis, something you have a habit of. Whenever you can think of nothing, you simply say it's opinion. I offered no opinions actually, I asked you questions.

    As far as the prediction league goes, it's 4 fights. Why is it you claim bragging rights when you get something right, and have nothing to say when you get something wrong? I got one fight wrong, and I have no issue with that. Does this make you better than me? Cuz if it does, what does my above mentioned fight analysis of Guzman-Soto make you? At least I own up to it when I get something wrong instead of making excuses.
     
  2. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's moving another 5 lbs for his next fight after JMM. Currently Pac is struggling to make wt at 130 where he's currently dominating. So it's safe to say Pac will be very competitive or will still be dominant at 135.

    For the Hatton fight around November, Pac will be just training & will not worry about making weight anymore. So he will be free to eat all he wants, He's Body will be happy but we know also that Nobody trains like Pac. He'll burn all that Protein & turn it into muscles that will turn it into more additional Power. In this case Roach & Pac can very well concentrate on strategies & newly acquire Skills for Pac.

    Currently after a month of training, Pac still weigh 140 lbs, he probably walks in for training camp aroung 150. Pac's in not a Malnourished Flyweight anymore, He's a 144 lbs Human Machine now.

    Hatton Probably Partying at 170-180 right now but for weighin he's still be at 140, just the same as Pac. He might rehydrate at 155 but weight doesn't win fights. It's by Will, skills, speed & Power and Pac has all that now. PBF KO hatton using his Skills & Speed, Pac will do Hatton By Will, Power & speed. Weight doesn't matter.
     
  3. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    All of this is based on how Pac will feel at different weights, which is a small part of the equation at best. It will be about how he carries his punch, how he takes a punch, how he mantains his endurance, how the weight affects his activity level, etc.

    I think you need to think more about this and do so logically.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh and since you seem to be in the habit of tooting your own horn PacD, comparing yourself to other posters and claiming bragging rights, tell me.....why is it that you need to campaign to get on that same Leagues review panel? Seems no one else recognizes your greatness. I wonder why that is? You got 3 votes. One of them was from me.
     
  5. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac needs to mature in his current weight class first, his body will later fill in and it'll become heavier. but jumping to heavier weight-class immediately will be fatal for his career. His body may look up to it but it will not be ready for fighting. He needs to climb up slowly like Duran did. Gradually let your body take its course, dont force it.
     
  6. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are really riding on that Soto-Guzman predicton ha??? Wasn't This fight a 52-48 in favor of guzman?? That's means 48% of ESB is wrong. Yes you are right, KG together with 52% of ESB has bragging rights over Pacdbest & the rest 48% of ESB members. :rofl

    How about this, I got Bragging rights over 98% of ESB members on Donaire-Dachinyan. And KG never put out his Prediction on this fight coz he wants to be safe. How about I predicted almost all winners halfway of 2007 with exception of few like Guzzy-Soto??? That's bragging rights.

    Is that means because you Predicted one fight right & I was wrong, you are a better analyst?? Even in that fight, I previously pick Guzzy just change it because I beleive Soto can KO Guzzy. I was wrong there but I said also that Guzzy will be leading on the card. So I didn't predict that Guzzy has no Chance at all.

    Count how many fight I Predicted right then compare to my wrong picks? Then compare it to yours.

    Where's my challenge KG?? Predict the next big upset??? I almost have one already.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Oh my god. I fell on the floor laughing when I read that. I am riding on one prediction? I never bring them up....unlike you who brings up your Donaire prediction in nearly every thread (and you brought it up again here, which makes it even more comical.

    I never predicted the Donaire-Darchinyan fight cuz I didn't care lol, not because I was playing it safe. Why assume that anyways? Based on what? I only make predictions when I feel like it, have no need to prove myself or toot my own horn. I had to be ASKED to join the prediction league because of this (ask Decebal)

    You're the one who brought up predictions son. Live with it.

    I predicted alot of fights right last year. Got 2 wrong. Pavlik-Miranda, Margarito-Williams. Thing is, I don't care lol. You keep bringing it up. Oh and Guzman-Soto wasn't the only one you got wrong. Remember Arce vs Rojas?

    As for your challenge, I will tell you the same thing I told you last time. You can never challenge me PacD. I offered you a challenge first for an open debate, and you turned it down then changed the subject when it was brought up again. So you can't challenge me now. On top of which, your challenge makes no sense.
     
  8. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't have to think about it. I got input coming from Roach & Pac themselves. They named hatton already. They really believe they can beat Hatton. They know their stuff, they know what they got.

    Who should I believe you & KG??? No way... I have more Bragging rights than you guys. I rather believe myself. I'm learning now to read people just like how I read Nonito's confidence when he said He wants to KO his opponent all the time & the way he told me He'll KO Arce. This is way before the Darchinyan fight. He convinced with his confidence that's why I make that Great Prediction. During the Mijares-Arce Ring entrance & read the confidence in Mijares face & definitely told my cousin that this will be an upset. Since then I read the confidence in a fighter's face to determine my picks.

    It's not all sweet science guys. There's more to it.
     
  9. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    It's impossible to argue with PacDBest or take him seriously on any level. This is a guy who thinks Pac could beat Floyd and Cotto. It will be interesting to see whether he'll stay here or not after JMM beats Pacquiao. I'm guessing he will say that Pac only lost because of draining weight to make 130.
     
  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    If Pacquiao loses to Marquez, I bet he'll move up and take on David Diaz (a fight he'd win). Then it would be either a showdown with Hatton or Diaz. So realistically, it's very possible that he ends up 1-2 in his next 3 fights.
     
  11. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    So instead of analyzing fights we should be "reading peoples faces" :lol:
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    It's all too funny now. It's their confidence. So what, now when two confident fighters meet, you will call it a draw? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I can't take it....I am crying from laughing so hard.

    You have bragging rights over me, even though head to head, I got the right pick, right analysis, and you got....nothing?
     
  13. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Debate is not my thing coz it can't be proven. Who will judge us then??? Your friends in ESB??? I have to work & no time for Bullshitting.

    That's why my challeng is to make a Preditions which can be proven after the fight. Let's predict the next big upset.
     
  14. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then you go with Skills, style, power, speed & intangibles etc. Reading confidence is just one of them.

    So how you predict Wlad vs Ibragimov???
     
  15. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How about if Pac lose I'm out of here but if he wins you huki, KG. Acb & Amsty out of here. anymore wants to join???