If you're calling Parker the 4th best of this era I think Joyce deserves a second chance. Olympic silver medalist (robbed in the final) destroyed Parker, beat Dubois into submission. Yes he's very basic but he's obviously doing something right in his day to get these results.
If Parker fought any of the versions of Wilder that Fury fought, they would be doing the Haka days later at his funeral.
And if if and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Xmas. You can only compare fighters on actual achievements, not what ifs.
Joyce hasn't looked so great in his last few fights, but I agree. Let him have his second tune up with Chisora and throw him in with Kabayel.
5th probably Wilder helmed a title for twice as long. Maybe you can say by resume but that's not gonna do it for me and I always Ike Parker more than Wilder.
Joyce is a solid fighter, but a fighter that started his pro career a little late in the game. Had he started earlier I’m confident he’d be seen in a much better light. But we can only judge fighters on who they fight. His Dubois and Parker wins show, for me at least, that had he been younger he could have done a lot more.
Well you got the first three right at least. Wilder's best wins are a 50 year old contender and probably the worst WBC belt holder in HW history. He got destroyed by Fury three times. A boxing master class the first go and savage maulings the other two. He got 12-0 by Parker and Zhang sent him to the shadow realm. 1. Usyk 2. AJ 3. Fury 4. Parker 5. Somebody not named Wilder
Good Perhaps I could be a potential Wilder opponent going forward. Not having much of a rep makes me an ideal candidate.
Fury getting knocked down multiple times shadowed over the fact Fury v Wilder was extremely one-sided. Even the 3rd one outside of the 4th round was completely one sided which is worse when Fury was in horrible shape and Wilder was clearly juiced as it comes.
Ortiz was made out to be the boogeyman because Wilder fans needed something to hang on to whilst he was ducking anyone an actual threat to him. That Team Fury played them like a fiddle is all the funnier. Talk about a cherry pick gone wrong. I took a fair amount of flak on here for a bit when Joshua was on his downturn for saying he would have always made light work of Wilder. He punches hard and can box, everyone lands on Wilder so I didn't see how he didn't brutalise him with his jab before KOing him if he went for it. But ability wise? It was never a contest. it's a real shame that Povetkin never got to derail the Wilder hype train when it should have been.
Good thing about the Saudi's as long as there in the sport the best will fight the best so no more false narratives out there, we should know who are the best, look at Hrgovich, people were saying he was the best around, found out first step up he had.