Parker: AJ is average I’ll stop him

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  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I believe Takam lucked out when the bell rang after he was knocked down in the 4th( i picked that rnd ),Joshua was ready to pounce. Im not sure what Parker thinks ( he couldn't have watched that fight sober) anyway if the fight went 4 rnd or 12 rnds...completely different fights..one struggled the other dominated easily.
     
  2. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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  3. NakiFan

    NakiFan Proud Kiwi Guy Full Member

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    Parker was 24 yrs old and was coming off wins over Bergman, Martz and Meehan when he took on Carlos Takam.

    AJ was 28 yrs old when he fought a Carlos Takam that was 1 1/2 yrs older than the one that fought Parker, and 3 yrs older than when he fought Povetkin.

    Don't put the performance of JP and relate it to the weekends fight. Simply ask yourself, how would AJ have done if he decided to take on Takam (which he was lined up to do before Hearn brought Charles Martin title), post Whyte fight in Mid 2016?

    Personally, I would have had the two fights being very similar. Both would have learnt a huge amount of knowledge on how to face a cagey, top level opponent, and BOTH would have gone the distance.
     
  4. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We don't evaluate talent the same and I believe greatness is TWO totally different things between us.

    There are certain fighters thrown around here as "great" very few fighters within every generation are great, to me.

    Aj has every attribute, talent add skill needed to have a legit shot at becoming an ATG and he has the very rare qualities that he is the fighter since a very young LL.

    Turned out LL had every physical talent but he lacked the granite chin which is imperative to being capable of becoming the hw goat.

    Aj is the only hw since him that has all the physical talent, obviously not the talent LL had but missing something that is needed.

    LL is probably second in my opinion with physical talent...physical talent is everything you see with the naked eye...Even non boxing fans could see how deadly his talent was to opponents.

    Just think, if LL beat both those ko counts, I believe he beat both but wasn't showing he was capable of defending himself..If he was able to continue and came back and won both by stunning knock outs, means he'd be 40something and 0 with tons of knock outs.

    There would not be a sane and honest fan that wouldn't rate LL #1 ALL time hw goat. The only ones arguing would be the ali fans and the Tyson moron backers.

    Aj has that granite chin, can fight hurt and come up with a new strategy to come back and win. He also has the tools to pull it off.

    Now, same thing. I believe without a doubt wlad had the most physical tools a hw his size or even close to his size had. Imagine if Wlad had every tool he had plus vitalis chin and over all durability...keeping wlads own heart and pain threshold. Because that vitali surrender because they shoulder was unforgivable. I believe that had more to do with him knowing he was injured and was afraid little weak Byrd was going to beat him some how some way, due to injury.

    Now take that wlad tooled with vitalis chin and now add Mike Tyson fear of opponents and fierce aggression. That would make the ultimate video game hw destroyer.

    The fighters I'm high on the most, are the fighters that have the most IT factor, which is a bunch of things needed to be one of the real greats. I brush, some times counting certain fighters out against fighters I'm not sure of.

    My favorite, aren't always the most talented but you have to be elite level talented for me to give you enough time to investigate.

    We always believe we're right, when the time had been put in. The fighter I missed the most on is
    Andre freaking ward. I tried to write him off so many times but only felt I knew enough to pick against him and he burned me.

    One fighter everyone will without a doubt claim is a true ATG which I will never agree. Great career, yes coming from learning to box in prison but he's not a true ATG imho and that's Hopkins.

    Yes, great career but not truly an elite atg fighter. I'm giving him the great career which is better than most but I'm just not very high on him. He got beat too easily by fighters that no true atg fighter would lose to, never mind be beat easily. Ya ya ya, bunch of mw title defended but c mom, we have non-stop bashing of ggg defenses while the two best fighters in that entire time were tito and odh.

    Ggg would have to rematch ishida for 3 defenses and one like wade 2 defenses. Hops has no lenmy, his Jacobs= albeit less taylor, never a canelo- non even close to canelo as a defense. Just my opinion and can't be changed.

    Way too many, especially on here is _insert name best opponent is blah blah blah. I guess your best win to date is your ceiling.

    Sorry, must had over medicated myself this well
    Fyi: all the didn't read blah or troll this troll that, no n need to tell me you can't read a couple hundred (max) characters, in a quick enough timeframe, I know the average level of posters we have, don't need more than a select few I'd be interested to hear their criteria
     
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  5. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By no means am I saying his chinny I actually think he has a good chin, but I do think it’s the type of chin which may get weaker as his stamina drains same thing with AJ.

    His chin, handspeed are definitely his best attributes for me.
     
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  6. Scyson

    Scyson Active Member banned Full Member

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    Parker lucky to last 6 rounds.
     
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  7. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Those who are using the excuse of Parker being younger and more inexperienced when fighting Takam....

    'Inexperienced' Hughie Fury, a year younger than Parker when he fought Takam, took more rounds from Parker than Takam did from Joshua.

    In my eyes, Joshua vs Parker is actually a similar fight to Joshua vs Takam.

    Difference is, with Joshua having a full camp to prepare, combined with the fact that we've seen Parker isn't as durable as Takam (Parker did get worried during the Takam fight), it ends early.

    AJ TKO within 6.
     
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  8. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Going to make myself watch Parker vs takam before I pick how quickly it ends
     
  9. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So if AJ is "Average" what the **** was Hughie Fury?? And still you couldn't knock him out. STFU Parker
     
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  10. Lith

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    Shades of Ali :D
     
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  11. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Parker wanted to fight Joshua. But Hearn kept trying to get him to fight Price on Joshua's undercard instead.
     
  12. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your fact is not a fact, please google the word fact. I mean no offence but thats not a fact. Takams been knocked out, Parker hasnt even been clearly wobbled. Hes taken a lot of big shots though as you guys say, hes easy to hit.

    Your use of the 'worried' could be easily mistaken as wobbled. You probably did mean worried but then that presents a grammar problem. I hate to play grammar cop but anyway, he wasnt wobbled against Takam.

    Im a bit 'picky' today :)
     
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  13. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did get gassed against Takam, it was a learning fight for him - no doubt. He has been a lot more disciplined, tightened up his pace and defense since and is still improving or refining in ways with each fight since. Parker of now would do better than the Parker who faced Takam, as is the case that the Joshua who faced Whyte would have had a MUCH harder night if he faced Takam at that time. It's very hard to compare these kinds of things.

    A lot of this is moot though, Joshua is not average. I'm sure Parker doesn't think that, I suspect he gets pushed by Duco to try and make stirring comments and isn't really a **** talker so it ends up coming out real bad.
     
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  14. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absa-absolutely.
     
  15. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    Say that again? :eatingburger:facepalm::icon_pc: