PARKER Beats JOSHUA - Proof Inside

1. You do realize Joshua was supposed to fight Wilder after Wallin right ? that was the whole point of Wilder/Parker, Joshua/Wallin, to build up a big fight between Joshua/Wilder. As i said earlier Joshua did his part by destroying Wallin but Wilder failed losing 12-0 to Parker, hence that ruined the Joshua/Wilder fight which now has no hype after Wilder's last performance.

2. It was a big money fight and Joshua had to restore some creditability back to boxing by making an example of Ngannou, after Fury embarrassed the sport by almost losing to an MMA fighter. As i said blame Fury for giving Ngannou clout he started this whole clown show, by wasting 2 years fighting Chisora 3rd time and then an MMA fighter instead of fighting Usyk.

 

1. My point still stands. There was no reason that they couldn't fight as both fought on the same card that night. I do get your point I just don't agree with it. Each to their own.

2. No. If it wasn't ok for Fury to fight him, it's not magically ok when AJ does it. Spin it how you want it, AJ should be fighting better opposition. He's had enough soft touches and Fury's old opponents. What's next, Chisora?

 

1. Joshua was willing to fight Wilder it's not his fault that Wilder lost Parker. I mean when could Joshua have fought Wilder previously ? Wilder has had a long running trilogy with Fury. And was Wilder ever really willing to fight Joshua in previous years ?

2. Wallin was not considered a soft touch at the time, it was considered a banana skin fight that quite a few people picked Wallin for a possible upset. Wallin was the guy that gave Fury a very competitive fight and cut him badly, no one expected Joshua to finish Wallin early. Now people with hindsight want to say Wallin was an easy touch when in reality that wasn't the general opinion prior to fight.

Joshua got offered a bucket load of money to fight Ngannou, and Fury gave Ngannou the clout and the impression that he was a top 10 Heavyweight. As I said not Joshua's fault blame Fury for making Ngannou a viable opponent.

As for right now ? I agree Joshua needs to fight one of the big names now, but if Parker has a rematch vs Zhang there isn't many options apart from maybe Hrgovic who hasn't got alot of hype behind him atm.

 

I think he deserves a rematch at this point. Neither got anyone better to fight.

 

Parker has a chance to win a hard-won SD against Joshua, but he would have to be really good and Parker is capable of being that...

 

As far as parker beating AJ...
I can't see parker beating AJ with the wild swinging over hand shots he beat wilder and zhang with, different gravy!

My estimations of parker have gone up ten fold recently but I'm still a realist lol

 

Definitely a few sure but some posters carry on like no credit was given

For the record I thinker neither was shot

Wilder was rusty sure but shot na

Zhang just lost fair and square and couldn't work around Parkers plan

I'm no AJ fan but despite this I still would put money on him beating Parker

 

The Ruiz loss was almost 5 years ago now. Parker's defeat to Joyce was far more recent

And yeah everyone thought Parker would get KO'd by Wilder because they couldn't possibly anticipate how bad Wilder was on the night and how he barely threw any punches.

Same with Zhang.

Bringing the AJ Ruiz loss into this argument is stupid.

 

AJ was a both a unified champ and considered at his peak by many when he lost to Ruiz, so I think it's a perfectly fair loss to mention. It's also a common opponent they share. How do you think AJ would have done against Joyce? Because if he was an easy opponent AJ would have fought him already.

You can call Wilder "bad" all you want. He came off a 1 round KO against Helenius where it took AJ 7. He'd still be a favourite against a fair number of fighters today. He might be technically limited, but that power and his (usually excellent) delivery bails him out 95% of the time.

Parker employed an excellent strategy that resulted in both Zhang and Wilder unable to consistently throw and land their power punches. Against most other opponents they'd be laid out inside of six.

Hopefully AJ starts building a bit more momentum and starts taking on some dangerous fights soon. Because it'll be awfully embarrassing if he's showed up by the co-main a third time in a row.

 

Did you see him beating Wilder and Zhang? I'd imagine he'd use a different strategy against AJ with Lee in his corner too.

 

I think it would be an intriguing match up now - both are different fighters from before and are resurgent in the last 18 months.

Parker's biggest issue would be getting around Johsua's jab, and although I'm sure Andy Lee would have a gameplan for it, executing is a different thing. Usyk was able to nullify Johsua's jab with his own offence and lateral footwork, but I don't see how that works for Parker.

IMO Parker would have to tag AJ early to make him a bit hesitant and be allowed to fight inside more - which he was pretty much shutdown on by the ref in their first encounter.

Parker has shown great improvements under Lee, but Joshua looked very good against Wallin and seems to have some of his old aggression back, with a more measured caution at the same time.

I'd make Joshua a heavy favourite but Parker under Lee could come up with agameplan that could make it interesting

 

I hope you're not including me in that group, because I predicted Parker to beat Zhang, and gave a pretty detailed breakdown of how he could achieve it.

I picked Wilder to beat Parker only because I was disappointed in Parker's form of late, rather than because I thought Wilder was so much better than him. In fact, I always thought Wilder was a hypejob waiting to be exposed. But even so, I gave Parker major credit for the win.

I also picked Joyce to beat Parker when everyone was saying he was too slow for Parker, too crude bla bla. How'd your pick for that fight go, out of interest?

 

Big respect to both men. They're doing what all heavyweights should be doing, fighting regularly against consistently good opposition. Parker especially has really excelled in this, and I love how he's back in the driving seat. It's why I find these Parker vs Joshua debates annoying because people want me to pick sides and I like them both. All the back and forth Joshua has a glass chin/glass heart, Parker is a featherfist stuff is totally unnecessary.

 

Zhang has the type of sneaky power and timing to cause problems for almost anyone, but there's a reason Joshua beat him in the Olympics, and a reason Joshua hasn't suffered a KO defeat or even a knockdown since Ruiz. He's really cagey and picks his moments to come forward well. So what likely happens there is something similar to the Hrgovic fight, only Zhang actually gets hurt by Joshua's power shots and loses by late TKO with Joshua never hitting the canvas.

You seem to want to lump him in with Joyce and that's completely the wrong category of fighter to put him in.