Parker is a hypejob that hasn’t improved

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Way to immediately contradict yourself.
     
  2. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Parker was listed as a client on the website of that TRT doctor that Conor Benn used lol, Dr. Usman. Website got taken down, Fury was on there too.
     
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  3. Can I box

    Can I box Active Member banned Full Member

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    Nope my point was has he changed in terms of the calibre of fighter his is and that’s a no.
     
  4. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, he's around Whyte/Chisora level.
    Like them, he can be competitive with a lot of fighters and will be capable of upsets.
    Part of his hype is AJ fans. But of course Parker wasn't a real champ, he got the belt donation from Fury and beat Ruiz for it in a close fight.
    People forget he was taking terrible opponents for a long time before Joyce.

    I don't hate Lee but honestly he gave some bad advice to Fury in the first Usyk fight. Us keyboardists probably don't know how to corner people in 'big time boxing' but I feel like telling Fury he only needed to win another round going into round 11 was misleading and then saying he just needed the 12th after that was not true. By the 12th he needed a KD and really needed that anyway.
     
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  5. Can I box

    Can I box Active Member banned Full Member

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    By improved I mean had he turned into a different calibre of fighter? Literal improvements over time due to working on craft is normal but he’s still in the same tier as he always was.
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    But you used the word improved in the thread title. So which one is it?
    Also, Parker was the underdog in his last two fights - you don´t get to simply write that off. People clearly underestimated him, and he proved to be better than most thought.
     
  7. Can I box

    Can I box Active Member banned Full Member

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    Didn’t my original post explain my angle? Don’t just look at the title you click on to enter the thread.
     
  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    I did.

    You contradicted yourself, even if slightly so.
    IMO Parker has improved since the Joyce loss. For years I and a few others noted and debated over Parker´s clear decline. He was regressing as a boxer. But since 2023 he has shown new vigor.
    The clearest improvement is his consistency throughout the fights. Parker used to loose concentration in all of his fights, especially the later rounds. But now he is boxing methodically, and sticking to a clear gameplan for the entirety of the bout.

    Looking at these two fights, I clearly see an improved boxer. Nothing drastic, but improvements none the less. More head movement, more feints, responsible defense, setting up offense. Parker is showing his experience.
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  9. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Andy Lee is pursuing it on purpose, I think Joseph Parker just likes to acknowledge his team, he definitely shouts out his coach and S&C coach more than any other fighter I know.

    And more importantly he gives a good interview and the way he speaks about boxing is accessible to the layman, meaning he is sought out by pundits who want his opinion on things.
     
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  10. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Interesting that, I think he can over do it at times instead of keeping it simple. Kind of like Malik Scott.

    they are like snake oil salesman, what a normal coach can say in 2words they over complicate and flower it up to make themselves sound clever.
    I understand broadcasters loving this but I didn’t know people believed the overly complicated and detailed explanations
     
  11. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Andy Lee explains the whole fightplan. THIS is what a great trainer sounds like-

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  12. LoniBana

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    Former world champ.

    Has been in the pro ranks for 12 years, spent most of that time in the Top 10 rankings.

    Has 38 pro fights, which is vast experience in this era.

    Has fought Takam, Dmitrenko, Ruiz, Chisora x2, Joyce, Whyte, Joshua, Hughie Fury, Wilder, Zhang and soon Dubois. Healthy mix of elite level fighters and danger men in that itinerary, and every heavy hitter of this generation. His 3 losses were all against fighters in their prime. Obviously a big caveat there with his Whyte loss in his PED pomp.

    It's an impressive resume given Parker is no power puncher himself and has rebuilt his career essentially twice. If it is not the best resume in terms of fighters fought in the HW Division right now, its certainly the most unique.

    Probably good to add he only just turned 33.

    No hype train there
     
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  13. Kalondza

    Kalondza New Member Full Member

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    I agree with you 100% nothing more to add.
     
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  14. Historical boxing society

    Historical boxing society Member Full Member

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    Very well stated. Unless you have a clear bias like some folks have demonstrated on this thread.
     
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  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, to his credit he's stayed active but Wilder was as shot as shot gets and Zhang is an ancient Chinese mummy who still put him down twice. Any objective analysis says you are probably correct. I like Dubois by late stoppage over him.
     
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