Parker is the worst finisher in HW history

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The only complain i had over Parker is his defence was kinda crap, as well as his cardio could/should have been better. Also when the KD, Chisora was going slowly to the corners to hang in there and Parker was waiting him patiently to go there and then push. He should have straight up push on the gas the moment Chisora get up, and not waiting him to get to the corner lol.
    Need to work on his footwork as well.
     
  2. doopapoopy

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    Right David Haye was still a cruiser weight . He destroyed Chisora . Now a washed up Chisora is going to distance with guys like Usyk, Parker and Dillian Whyte (In the first fight). Chisora isn't that tough for boxing standards. These current heavyweight are just that bad though.
     
  3. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Bad? In what sense? Haye rocked Valuev and Wilder in sparring with big gloves and headgear on. Don’t you think it’s more likely that your assessment of David Haye is the problem here? Holyfield was a cruiser, does that mean Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe were also weak heavyweights? Holyfield could hang with Lewis, man that must have been a weak era for a cruiser to be able to hang. Then a middleweight James Toney stopped Holyfield.
    You’re telling me that a fat middleweight is better than the whole 90s heavyweight scene? I hope you get my point.
    Chisora went the distance with the Klitschko that sent Lewis into retirement. He was stopped by Whyte. Why would it be surprising that he’s gong the distance with Parker? What makes you think he’s washed up?

    Believe it or not, some fighters actually get better and more resilient as their career goes on. If you can’t think of any I can make a list to get you started.

    Are we talking about chin or toughness anyway? Amir Khan has a poor chin but he’s tough. Andre Direll has a decent chin and no toughness. Holyfield would get rocked all over the place in his fights and tough it out, kind of like Chisora against Parker. Explain to me the difference between Chisora and Holyfield? When a guy really wants to win and shows a lot of heart then we call the guy ‘tough’. The guy who keeps getting up from knockdowns and doing everything they can to survive.
     
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  4. Reinhardt

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    There is that argument for sure.....
     
  5. It's Ovah

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    Was Earnie Shavers a blown up CW? Or Joe Louis? Max Baer? Dempsey? Marciano? What about Ali when he KOed Liston?
     
  6. It's Ovah

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    Nah, it's a poor argument. Haye was overrated in many ways but his punching power was always top class.
     
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  7. deyell

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    Worse than Zuri Lawrence?
     
  8. doopapoopy

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    The fact that you brought up 180 pound Rocky Marciano and asked is he a cruiser weight proves you aren't ready to talk boxing with me. So guess what? I won't talk boxing with you. Bye bye.
     
  9. BeantownAll

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    That is a great illustration of the problem.

    Remember when Alexander Flores got hurt in the opening minute of his fight with Luis Ortiz and tried to make for the corner? How'd that work out?

    Chisora employed a classic journeyman tactic several times to survive. He has a *history* of letting that stuff slide. The entire Cojanu fight for example.

    Parker did some things in this fight better than he did in the earlier one - absolutely - but where Parker's improvement ends and Chisora's obvious decline intersect on a graph is unknown. In any case, Parker went on the record stating "I'll stop Chisora between Round 6 and 10". He had him in big trouble much earlier than that...but he couldn't back up his talk

    I think Parker is still an elite HW, but having lost his belt in somewhat lackluster fashion - you really can't say his performance against Chisora should get him on the fast-track to a title chance. If he can beat a Joyce or Hrgovic - fine - but he needs to bag a big scalp to make his case.
     
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  10. Betyabeatyaup

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    True, he was a light heavyweight.
     
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  11. It's Ovah

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    A shame. I was so looking forward to our scintillating conversation.
     
  12. It's Ovah

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    Interestingly Beterbiev has more or less the same dimensions and frame of Marciano.
     
  13. SmackDaBum

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    He was most likely gassed by that point.
     
  14. Kiwi Casual

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    And probably weary of Chisora springing a trap on him too. If you're dominating a fight it's probably better to pick shots than rush in and risk a counter.
     
  15. Finkel

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    That's not true.
    Fury put a beat down on Chisora, forcing his team to pull him between rounds.
    Haye put a beat down on Chisora, forcing the ref to wave it off. He got knocked down twice in short succession, and beat the count twice.

    Only Whyte hit him with a shot that was too big for him to cope with and got the KO. Even then Chisora was still thinking he could try to get up, but his body wasn't responding.

    So what Parker did is not as you are making it out to be. Sure he didn't KO Chisora, but only one person has so far. The trouble is he doesn't really have that killer instinct. He should have just finished Chisora off in the corner, but he kept taking his foot off the gas whenever the referee took a half step forward. Force the stoppage, don't stop what your doing expecting the referee to stop it. The title of the thread is hyperbolic, but there is a kernel of truth
     
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