Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Bladesmanstan, Jun 12, 2022.
Are we about to see Parker vs Whyte 2 later this year on Sky Sports PPV?
Probably as it makes most sense for both men.
Parker knows Joyce would probably beat him whereas Whyte is very beatable. Parker only lost the first one because of a headbutt KD and his psychological limitations, he has all the physical and technical attributes he needs to beat Whyte. And while Parker's Chisora rematch wasn't all that impressive he did at least display a nice uppercut and more tenacity than usual in imposing himself on Chisora, who in style and temperament was similar to Whyte, which may have increased Parker's confidence. It's much lower risk, an opportunity for revenge, Whyte is a bigger name than Joyce and it's a bigger money fight. Joyce would just end Parker's carefully manufactured 6 fight win streak and put a lot more damage on him in the process, with none of the upside. Parker may even be able to stop Whyte and it would be nice for him to have at least one KO against a notable opponent.
For Whyte it's also a high profile fight, a big payday and more winnable than many, with less to lose than if he fights a prospect like Dubois, who is an aggressive, dangerous puncher. Whyte probably feels that if he can take Parker into deep waters again he'll drown him. He may also feel that Parker is a bit shopworn now after all of those 12 round fights so maybe he can KO him with a left hook. Whyte doesn't really have anywhere else to go right now and if he wins he's in line to fight AJ again in the future for another massive payday. If he loses it's not the end of the world as Parker is an "ex-world champion" (who Whyte has already beaten) with some decent names on his record rather than a humiliated prospect with best wins over Gorman and decisioning a shopworn Johnson.
I think Whyte's popularity has declined considerably since being stopped by faring worse against Fury than Wilder did. Remember Whyte spent a good couple of years calling out Wilder. He's yesterday's man in the UK I think.
Parker remains a very good fighter who doesn't move anybody's needle. Honest to God I think he fights Lucas Browne next because that's a low risk high reward fight for the money and honor almost demands it after he made a meal out of Fa that he couldn't finish while Browne obliterated Fa in about 2 minutes.
Whyte's popularity has declined considerably but he's much more well known than Joyce and they can build Whyte-Parker 2 as a high stakes revenge match, which would be impossible in the soporific affair of Parker-Joyce. Whyte's also a world title challenger and higher ranked than Joyce, aside from being an easier and less punishing opponent. On every level Whyte-Parker 2 makes more sense, which is why Parker is weaseling his way out of fighting Joyce to target the two uppercut KO losses in his last three fights Whyte.
Parker fighting a 43/44 year old Lucas Browne would be an absolute disgrace, I really can't see it happening. Browne will apparently fight McKean in Australia this summer, which is a much better fight for him. Maybe Babic next year if he wins. A couple of good final paydays against guys he can actually beat: Parker's chin is too good, he's a much better athlete and boxer and he wouldn't underestimate Browne as Fa did.
Good arguments, but I'll point out:
Yes, Browne-Parker would be a disgrace. But "disgraces" happen all the time in boxing when there is money to be made. This fight is there to be made if Browne wants it. No doubt McKean is a better match.
No argument from me that Whyte remains better known than Joyce. But you have to consider what a boxer is known for. Whyte was a hero of sorts but having lost like he did - he is now a disapointment. If he were a "heel" (to use US pro wrestling vocabulary) that would be good for the gate - but he isn't. An example: Jarrell Miller - having flunked a couple PED tests is a verifiable "heel". If Jarrell Miller wins his June 25th comeback (he almost certainly will) - then 100% absolutely you can make a fight in the UK for him between Miller and Dillian Whyte. Dillian gets a chance to redeem himself by vanquishing the "heel". It's a story.
If, otoh, you make Whyte-Parker 2 - you've got a fight with no real story. It's a good competitive fight - definitely - and I would be interested in it as a diehard - but outside our inner circle this is kind of a fight between two almost-but-not-quite fighters - including one (Parker) who has a recent record of grinding out decisions...even against fighters he outclasses.
Wait, I thought Parker couldn't fight for some reason involving his trainer not being available. Now he can fight against Whyte?
You know, **** Parker. The guy is 1-1 against Derrick Chisora. He basically sucks and is a complete fraud at this time.
Do you think Parker-Browne is likely after we were teased with Parker-Joyce? He was fodder for Dave Allen of all people and considered shot several years ago. If it was one of Parker's comeback fights off a loss I could see it but not otherwise.
The Parker-Chisora double were PPV fights in Britain and they were regarded as good fights, especially the second. There's probably a similar amount of interest in Whyte-Parker 2, the first also being a good fight and a war. Fury-Wilder 3 was still a highly lucrative bout despite the one-sided nature of the second fight. Can Dillian redeem himself and get another shot at the big time? Can Parker take revenge on Whyte and push on to bigger and better things? These would be the narratives. The expectation would be that the rematch would be a competitive war. Whyte-Parker 2 is one of the more casual-friendly fights you could make as a promoter, it's not like it's Hrgovic-Sanchez which would interest nobody outside the hardcore.
Hearn has claimed that he won't make fights involving Miller due to the PED scandals and the AJ situation. Maybe he's telling porkies but Miller is more problematic as a choice than Parker would be. Even if Whyte leaves Hearn and this isn't an issue, Miller may well fail another test lmao so he's anything but a reliable opponent for a PPV event.
Yeah, it turned out to be a blatant and shameless duck.
This...or Parker vs Hughie rematch.