Parker vs Wilder

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    So ? They offered him the fight and he refused. Simple as that. 4 weeks is plenty of time , especially when a world title is on the line. The unwritten rule in boxing is you never turn down a title shot.

    A duck is a duck and Hughie ducked.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hughie fought 1 week before, Wilder wanted Hughie to fight 2 times in 5 weeks lol. Also the 4 week demand was exposed as a lie as Wilder didn't have a date for 4 weeks time as he fought Duhaupas 7 weeks and 4 days later on the 26th Sept 2015.

    Wilder's team threw out a bull**** offer expecting Fury to decline so soon after he went 10 rounds but Hughie to his credit called his bluff and made Wilder look like a fool. Deontay Wilder, half man, half hybrid, 100% buffoon.
     
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  3. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Parker can beat Wilder in what I believe will be Wilders first real challenge. Thats provided Wilder hasn't fought Ortiz or any of the active top 5 before he meets Parker. I was gonna say the same for Parker but he's got Joshua next so Joshua would be Parkers first real challenge with all respect to Fury, Takam and Ruiz.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    How did Hughie call his bluff when he declined the fight? He didn't call any bluff. The offer was on the table and Peter openly admitted they weren't interested.
    4-5 weeks is more than Takums 1 WEEK notice against Joshua. And its a hell of a lot longer than Duhaplass 24 hour notice against Povetkin.

    If Wilder is so crap whats wrong with over a months notice? Surely anybody thats remotely good can beat this bum given only a weeks notice?

    But , there's more. Wilder gave Hughie another opportunity in Feb 2016 and Hughie backed out again. Two ducks.


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  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm going to ask you some honest questions, I'm not trolling or being rhetorical.

    Are you saying losing to someone with talent is more beneficial to a technical breakdown than beating talentless bums?

    Can you explain to me how a name has any effect on the physical actions a man takes then marry or debunk that idea with the styles make fights adage?


    In as simple terms as I can say this; how can the skill level of opposition be what justifies or validates talent while style is used to explain upsets? Maybe I'm just too damn dumb as hell to get it, but those ideas are counter intuitive to this moron.

    Doesn't the latter suggest the simple stylistic match-up can, does, has, and will again cause a fighter who is accepted as more talented to lose to a lesser fighter who then gets walked through by a number of guys the first fighter destroyed? Other than age what is the cause of good fighters losing to a lesser? Style init?


    Who has faced the widest array of styles? I think we can all agree name wise AJ has that in the bag, but stylistically is there currently any HW who does not shy from any type of fighter?
     
  6. juhave

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    Wilder by KO in later rounds.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He never declined the fight, he agreed to it if he could have an appropriate period to prepare. Takam was already prepared to fight in Monte Carlo a week later and unlike Hughie hadn't just fought. Fighters need some time to recuperate from a fight, hands are swollen, body and mind is tired, a 10 round fight builds up wear and tear and fatigue.

    Fact is Wilder's team never had a date set for the end of August, it was a bull**** offer, they didn't fight then they fought at the end of Sept against Duhaupas. Why didn't Duhaupas have to fight Wilder at 4 weeks notice? Wilder Duhaupas was confirmed only 2 weeks after he made the offer to Hughie. What happened to the supposed card 4 weeks from the supposed Hughie offer. They gave Duhaupas 6 weeks notice for the fight, why did Hughie only get 4 weeks.

    Never said Wilder was a bum, just saying he calls out fighters and doesn't actually fight them. Hughie is just one example. Why did Wilder go to Joshua/Wlad and call out Parker and Bellew when before hand he said he was there to show the winner he was there and ready.

    Fury might of ducked the Wilder fight the 2nd time it was offered but it doesn't change the fact the first time Wilder gave a bull**** offer and then fought Duhaupas with 6 weeks notice, when it could of easily been Hughie. Also Hughie also had an offer to fight Parker at the time as mandatory. He likely thought Parker was an easier fight further down the line for a title.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    They were offered a fight in September and they declined. There is no 'but'... They DECLINED.

    It was a real offer confirmed by Peter Fury. Wilder gave Fury a date in September , not August.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    As always you've ignored articles that have been posted previously to suit your point of view. Peter Fury was offered the fight Aug 3rd according to the article, says fight must be in 4 weeks even thought Wilder had already booked the Legacy Arena for 26th Sept. Why does Fury have to fight on 4 weeks notice but Duhaupas get 6 weeks. I think Szpilka got 7 weeks notice, Ortiz got 7 or 8 weeks notice. But hey Fury who just fought 10 rounds a week before is fine to fight in 4 weeks. That's just bull****.
     
  10. dinovelvet

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    Hughie and Peter were the only guys taking about 4 weeks. The fight was on offer for Sep 26

    https://www.badlefthook.com/2015/8/4/9095727/hughie-fury-offered-fight-with-deontay-wilder
     
  11. yesihavearm2

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    All you've done there is back-up my point, so not sure what you have quoted that for.

    Wilder's team said 4 weeks, Fury camp said 8. Wilder's team said no to then only make a fight with Duhurpas 8 weeks later lmao?

    You've just owned yourself.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    It took them 3 weeks to find and do a deal with Duhurpas. French cake man has no problem stepping up on short notice.
     
  13. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Good post. There are definitely throwback fighters who will take on anyone regardless of name or style. Specifically here we are talking about Wilder and his lack of ambition when it comes to taking on challenges. We were questioning his level of opposition back in 2012, and we are still asking the same questions today.
     
  14. yesihavearm2

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    I'm not surprised you are trying to legitimise Wilder's tactics of not allowing opponents a full camp. He's done this several times now. It's laughable.

    Wilder could have accepted 8 weeks to fight Fury, which is a standard camp length.

    Another duck registered for poor Deonkey.