Parker vs. Zhang rumoured to feature Joshua/Ngannou Undercard.

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No your bias is clouding your judgement. You accused Hrgovic of ducking a fighter whose challenge he publicly accepted which J-Park never responded to, who has already declined to fight Hrgovic when the IBF went through their rankings and offered him the fight against Hrgovic and the golden opportunity of a guaranteed title shot if he beat him. A fighter Hrgovic has already beaten in the amateurs. J-Park opted to fight Big Bang instead but Hrgovic is the one who ducked him?

    Hrgovic hasn't ducked anyone. Michael Hunter. J-Park. Fat Andy. Luis Ortiz and most of the rest of the IBF's top 15 all turned down fights against him not the other way round but you're blaming him for it even though he was willing to fight them all and they were all guaranteed a title shot and all the riches that follow that should they have beaten him.

    You trying to draw a comparison between Hrgovic and The Dosser is comical. Hrgovic has been calling for the big names for years and he didn't uproot his homeland and head halfway across the world to base himself in the US so he could duck fighters or dump his promoters recently because he doesn't want to fight the best.

    What are you talking about he just tried to take a ''dangerous fight'' against the Ring #4 ranked J-Park and J-Park didn't respond to him accepting his challenge and has signed to fight Big Bang instead

    And if Hrgovic just waits and doesn't fight anyone he'll likely be fighting AJ next :facepalm:
     
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  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So that's Hrgovic, Joyce x 2 and Parker in Zhang's last four fights? You have to give it to him, but at 41 time isn't on his side so he can't waste it on no hopers.

    In a perfect world this card would be Zhang vs Parker and Joshua vs Hrgovic with the winners to meet up for the top contender spot.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    And FTR, I like both Hrgovic and J-Park and the only reason I said it was a duck is because I couldn't believe Hrgovic was the one being accused of pulling a duck when J-Park is the one who signed to fight someone else not Hrgovic :facepalm:
     
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  4. NullaLexInk

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    I meant between Hrgovic and Parker there didn't seem to be ducking. The Wilder situation though... yeah, not painting himself in the best light there. Don't necessarily blame him, after his last fight I think Zhang prolly decapitates him... and maybe not figuratively either! :sisi1

    I heard that about Ngannou-AJ fighting the undisputed champion next, not entirely crazy about it because I believe it'll result in yet another Usyk-AJ fight and I don't think that's necessary. I'd prefer they fight Hrgovic or the Zhang-Parker winner. But hey, as we've all been discussing, they'll go where the money is. And you never know with boxing, we could end up with Usyk-Ngannou. He did say he wanted to go out on a big money freakshow fight once, and Ngannou is certainly better than the Canelo fight proposed at the time :lol:
     
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  5. BlackDog

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    I like Joshua but it looks like he use only this IBF talks for promotion
    He dont want fight with Filip too. At last when there is chance for Fury fight.
    That's why they want winner of nonsense fight vs Ngannou vs undisputed.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just because Hrgovic said in public he wanted Parker, doesn't mean that his team made an effort, which Zhang's obviously did. Or maybe they did, but the deal with Zhang was better, the Saudi's wanted it more etc.

    We can't really know, but this to me is the fight that makes most sense to all involved. The Saudis will want the Chinese audience, Parker will want the money it brings and is Parker really a risk Hrgovic needs when a summer showdown with Joshua seems likely? My guess is that one or several of those factors were deciding.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He accepted J-Park's challenge, J-Park should've responded in kind within hours and then if the fight didn't get made he could've turned round and say Hrgovic didn't really want it.

    Yes we don't actually know what happened behind the scenes but blaming Hrgovic for J-Park opting to fight Big Bang instead is hardly fair
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hrgovic didn't duck Parker based on public info

    We have no clue what happened in negotiations if there were any
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

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    Why are people accusing Parker of ducking when he's still fighting top opposition? Joyce, Wilder and Zhang are hardly soft opponents.
     
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  10. Bokaj

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    No, I don't see any reason to blame Hrgovic, but not Parker either. And I understand why he didn't commit to anything over Twitter, that had to be dealt with between the two teams. Maybe his team reached out to Hrgovic's team, but didn't get the response they got from Zhang's, maybe they were in talks with both but the Saudis stepped in and decided. Hearn for one probably didn't want Hrgovic to take this risk if he could help it, since he seems well set up to have two of his fighters facing off for the IBF belt later. Just so much we don't know, but Parker-Zhang is the more logical match-up, I think.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And Wilder publicly accepted many challenges, and then ducked the fights. Same for belly. And tik-tok is not the place where you are accepting fights. Just because Hrgovic open his mouth, as he is constantly doing, this means nothing.

    Jared Anderson straight after claimed Hrgovic is ducking him, and never answer his call, and since then Hrgovic hasn't respone, based on your view, this is a duck, surely, right ?

    As far as Parker, you somehow managed to ignore my previous posts, and Bomber ones where we clearly explained that Parker was injured, and this was a fact.
    Also you somehow managed to avoid the reality, that no ex champion is going to accept a 40% split against Hrgovic.

    Parker earned $10m. against AJ, never in a million years he was going to accept a $290k. against way lesser name in Hrgovic.

    Parker also fought the supposed Juggernaut, a guy you specifically had on a high pedestal.
    So how that is a duck exactly?

    Just 2 of Parker opponents put Hrgovic to shame.

    As far as the fight now, how hard is to get, that it's not Parker that is doing the offers? It's the Saudi. It's not Parker that is choosing his opponents, it's the Saudi.

    The only question is, as we know the contract was send to Zhang and Wilder. Was contract send to Parker and Hrgovic, and Hrgovic rejected the fight.
    And Saudi obviously make the Zhang - Parker.
    Otherwise Hrgovic would be on the card too. But i guess they didn't want another de Mori type of opponent, and Hrgovic decided to stay home.

    And no Hrgovic may not fight AJ next, as the Saudi boss(can't pronounce his name, let alone write it) just said the winner of Ngannou - AJ is fighting for the Undisputed title, aka either Fury or Usyk.

    So Hrgovic will have to wait.
     
  12. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Again he accepted it via tik-tok. Accepted is what Parker did. As Zhang manager the other day say Parker is ducking Zhang. This is how you response, by signing a contract, not running your mouth, and do nothing.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Because people accused Hrgovic of ducking him despite it being J-Park who opted to fight someone else instead of him. I don't think either of them are the ducking type but it's hardly fair to blame Hrgovic for this given what we know as of now.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's not TikTok. Hrgovic publicly accepted his challenge and said he was looking forward to facing him in March, J-Par never responded to that and has signed to fight Big Bang instead. He should've responded with hours to make the fight happen.
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I will answer you. Because it's not team Parker that do the offers. It's the Saudis. Also you are not doing your business on twitter.

    What we know from Zhang manager is that Zhang was offered the WIlder fight, and Saudi send them the contracts to team Zhang and team Wilder. Zhang team sign the contract and they were waiting for the Wilder.

    So this could very well be the case with Parker and Hrgovic. As this was the fight Saudi was supposed to make.
    For Wilder - Zhang is 100% sure, as it's confirmed.
    Hrgovic is unknown, but could be the case.
    And that's why Saudi opted for Zhang - Parker.

    Anyone claiming it was Parker choice to pick Zhang, when it was Saudi is absolutely delusional.

    Parker is a true warrior.
    And anyone knows who i'm a fan in the HW division, but i have never been biased like some fans.
     
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