Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kiwi_in_America, Nov 15, 2023.

  1. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

    Mar 5, 2018
    For 2-3 years nobody wanted anything to do with Ortiz.

    I never said Stiverne was a world beater demolishing monster.

    Parker has had a legit career. But I wouldn't say he's made his career "derailing undefeated prospects". That's not accurate for a couple of reasons.

    Yeah, he beat Ruiz Jr - but you can't say that he "derailed" Andy's career. Obviously, Ruiz Jr. bounced back and beat A.J. If anything derailed Andy's career - it's his overall lack of fitness and commitment.

    The only other undefeated prospect he's beaten that I can name is Junior Fa. Let's be honest - Junior Fa was never a serious prospect and it did Parker's reputation no good at all that that fight went the distance and that it was as close as it was.
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe It’s a Tank world Full Member

    Jul 25, 2014
  3. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

    Oct 19, 2006
    Parker and Fury are the most dangerous boxers Wilder has faced in a very long time.

    I don't think it pays to presume he can drop Parker - who is only 31 and has an excellent chin
  4. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

    Nov 23, 2013
    Except for that little thing where he was a middle money man for an international cocaine and meth ring.:lol:
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  5. MrPook

    MrPook Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    This is true people forget too easy about the situation at the time the fight was made. That context matters.
  6. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

    Jul 30, 2018
    Actually Parker has lost 3 times and not twice as u say. AJ, Whyte and Joyce
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    J-Park said to himself this is a no brainer

    Wait, what? You mean you're going to pay me the most amount of money to fight the weakest opponent out of the three?

    The can-crusher who can't box and who fought 40 binmen?

    Er.. let me think about that for a millisecond

    Thought about it.. where do I sign?
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    Bit of edge, makes him more interesting.
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  9. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 25, 2008
    I like Parker but I'm picking Wilder.
  10. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

    Oct 19, 2006
    I like Parker

    And I'm picking Parker
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  11. MrPook

    MrPook Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    It’s nice to think that Parker can use his skills to make the fight go his way.

    But when he was fighting Junior Fa for example things were going his way. But Junior Fa who is about the same size as Wilder still landed plenty of punches from range. But Fa doesnt have big power.

    If Fa was landing like that Wilder will too. Even 80% Wilder. Because Wilder and Fa are different leagues.
  12. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

    Oct 19, 2006
    Agreed, Pook

    Parker will have to do a lot better than that performance

    But Wilder has neither fought nor beaten hardly any top boxers himself.
  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Prayed for Shadow,Waste of time,Still a nincompoop Full Member

    Mar 17, 2018
    3 loses

    That beating Joyce gave him cracked his chin
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  14. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 4, 2014
    Literally the same feeling. Every time i pick Parker to win, he just disappoint and doesn't give enough to win the fight.
    The skills and attributes are all there, but i think mentally he is not on the level he needs to be. He needs to be more aggressive and forget the nice guy. Go there and do everything for the win, stop being the nice guy.

    That's why i pick Wilder for this one, cause literally every time i think Parker will shows his true level and skills, he has been disappointed me.
    So let's hope my prediction will be wrong again. :D
  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Active Member Full Member

    Jul 31, 2021
    How many more losses would Wilder have if he fought better competition?